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    Default Brushes need more work

    The artbrushes introduced in V11 were a great feature but they are not complete. There are still a few key features that are missing.

    • The ability to set beginning and end points for both stretching and repeating brushes
    • The ability to erase with a brush
    • Transparency and softness settings for all types of brushes
    • The ability to use all types of transparency/blending modes in brush definition objects.
    • The ability to set the resolution of brushes. (this can already be done by changing a registry setting so it just needs to be added to the UI)
    • A remodel of the Lines Gallery to give better organization to the brushes.
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    Default Re: Brushes need more work

    A new bullet point: The ability to export as vector.
    The brushes look great in their natural Xara habitat, but once released into the wild it's a different story.
    I exported a simple acrylic 2 brush applied to a circle as a .pdf file (4.38 MB).
    In Illustrator it failed to open correctly.
    In Affinity designer it opened and at first glance there seemed to be a vector object, (a thin blue line surrounding the brush)
    which, when I zoomed in was a pixellated version of the nice brush in Xara.
    Nice try, Xara, but no cigar.
    Don't get me wrong, I love Xara, but until the brushes and the whole Open Type Management debacle are sorted,
    there will be no more upgrades for me (and a few others around these parts, too).
    Bob.
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    Default Re: Brushes need more work

    To retain art brushes as vector data the output format (e.g. pdf) must be able to represent the arbitrary distortion of graduated fills and bitmap fills.

    And the target application (Illustrator or Affinity) must be able to interpret that representation and render it.

    I don't know whether pdf has that capability but if not art brush elements that are anything more than trivially simple (e.g. anything other than flat filled) will always be output as bitmap filled shapes. Higher bitmap resolution will improve the fidelity but make the files much bigger.

    Phil

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    Default Re: Brushes need more work

    Thanks for replying, Phil. I'd settle for trivially simple vector brushes - Illustrator's are for the most part just that. Simple grungy brushes or halftones, for example.
    Affinity's brushes aren't much to write home about. I'd like to see Xara have the capability of using the Illustrator Brush format, that would do it for me.
    Bob.
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    Default Re: Brushes need more work

    Hi Bob,

    If you keep your brush definitions simple, and if the brush strokes DON'T self-overlap or have tight corners, Designer will output them as vector shapes right now.

    I guess the self-overlapping and tight corners conditions make things a bit unpredictable for end users and that's something we could look at improving.

    Phil

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    Default Re: Brushes need more work

    Here's a hastily made halftone brush applied to Myriad Pro lettering using XDP.
    Allowing for my poor draughtmanship in getting a perfect brush, the brush handles the X fairly well at 9 and 3 o'clock, not so well at 12 and 6.
    Exports as vector to Illustrator, which is cool, but the distortions in the tighter angles is a bit odd. Illustrator handles this sort of thing better.
    .xar file enclosed.
    Bob.
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