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[Chris M]

spring forward, fall back - the usage is very common still here, and of course, predates autumn in general usage

Is the term Fall originally from Britain? I always presumed it was American/Canadian.

[gwpriester]

We use either but Fall is probably used more often.

Otherwise it is very confusing when you try to remember is it Spring Forward, Autumn Back?

[Chris M]

We use either but Fall is probably used more often.

Otherwise it is very confusing when you try to remember is it Spring Forward, Autumn Back?

I spent the first 26 years of my life in the UK and have no recollection of Fall being used, nor the term Spring forward, Fall back. What does that saying refer to?

I know most English sayings date way back to the times when Vikings were not just a TV series. I also remember the Harvest Festival being touted in schools (although a can of baked beans isn't really a harvest item). Spring and Fall > seasons > harvest + reading/writing not a thing before Wikipedia = sayings we no longer understand the origins of. There are quite a few sayings that are used out of their original context, but of courde I can't think of a single one to use as an example.

[Acorn]

I spent the first 26 years of my life in the UK and have no recollection of Fall being used, nor the term Spring forward, Fall back. What does that saying refer to?

I know most English sayings date way back to the times when Vikings were not just a TV series. I also remember the Harvest Festival being touted in schools (although a can of baked beans isn't really a harvest item). Spring and Fall > seasons > harvest + reading/writing not a thing before Wikipedia = sayings we no longer understand the origins of. There are quite a few sayings that are used out of their original context, but of courde I can't think of a single one to use as an example.

Spring forward, Fall back is for the change to and from Daylight Saving.

Acorn

[Chris M]

Spring forward, Fall back is for the change to and from Daylight Saving.

Acorn

Ahh, the ancient custom of bending the sundial.

[behzad]

Acorns are produced in Fall

[Chris M]

After a bit of research:

"Legend has it that Bert The Daft of Cumbria birthed the alteration of time in the early Bronze Age. Frequently wishing to keep drinking beyond the last bell in The Cross Keys, Bert came up with the idea of swapping the time candle with a longer one, adding approximately one hour before the landlord closed the doors.

6 months later, Bert decided to add another hour, but had too many Theakstons and reduced the candle instead. The patrons found out and ridiculed Bert by coining the honorific Bert The Daft. To save face (and being the King) Bert declared it a law.

Many myths have sprung forth in an effort to save embarrassment, including, pagan rites at the solstice, helping farmers harvest cans of baked beans and keeping the peasants in a state of confusion."

[Acorn]

Is the term Fall originally from Britain? I always presumed it was American/Canadian.

Yes, it began in GB and lost favour in C17 just as the language went overseas.

Mixing the two together is, however, just daft.

Acorn

[handrawn]

Yes, it began in GB and lost favour in C17 just as the language went overseas.

Mixing the two together is, however, just daft.

Acorn

C17? is that circa or century [which would be 1600s]

either way a bit early methinks

[Acorn]

C17? is that circa or century [which would be 1600s]
either way a bit early methinks

The Pilgrim Fathers hit the US in 1620.
I'm sure the Fall had been stowed.

Without any evidence, the Hillbilly cadence is Elizabethan (d. 1604?) so my wet finger suggests the origin date is close.

Acorn