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    Default arrows - just how difficult can they be?

    For some time now I have been getting an RSS feed of Matt Kloskowski's excellent series of Photoshop
    Killer Tips video tutorials.

    Today's offering has me considering not the work of the excellent
    Mr. Kloskowski, but the validity of Photoshop itself. If the industry
    standard makes the drawing of arrows difficult enough for a video to be
    considered required viewing in order to produce them, then I'd say that perhaps Photoshop has outlived its usefulness.
    This isn't meant as an Adobe bashing, it's the industry's slavish adoption of Photoshop that I find puzzling. Nor is it a comparison between Photoshop CorelDraw and Xara
    as they are horses of a different colour, but given that CorelDraw has its very own tool to do the job, and in our beloved Xara it is simplicity itself,
    why does Photoshop* have to make such a big production of it, actually saying, although not in so many words, "drawing arrows is such a difficult thing to do in Photoshop, but here's a video to help overcome the
    steep learning curve."
    *As The National Association of Photoshop Professionals are behind these videos, I imagine that Adobe must approve of them.

    Anyhow, the point is (no pun intended) how do you do arrows with Xara? This isn't really a challenge, but show us your examples. Or to put it
    another way, I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
    Saludos,
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    Default Re: arrows - just how difficult can they be?

    It's also very difficult to master 24-bit audio tracks in Microsoft Word, but for some reason it's still the world's nr.1 authoring program.

    Photoshop, as the the name suggests, is a photo editor. The best, actually.

    Xara is a vector drawing program. Most intuive and arguably fastest, actually.

    Taking programs as what they are, utilising their strong points to the maximum, and filling in their weak points with other tools is key to enjoying work.

    cheers,

    Jon

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    Default Re: arrows - just how difficult can they be?

    And the arrows:
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    Default Re: arrows - just how difficult can they be?

    Swimming arrow
    - Andrew
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    Default Re: arrows - just how difficult can they be?

    A few I have used.
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    Default Re: arrows - just how difficult can they be?

    Gee, one of those arrows looks awfully familiar, Soquili.

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    Default Re: arrows - just how difficult can they be?

    Allison, one is very familiar isn't it
    Soquili
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    Default Re: arrows - just how difficult can they be?

    Obviously there are things you can do in Photoshop very easily and quickly. And there are things that you can do easily and quickly in Xara that would take a lot longer in Photoshop.

    Gary
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    Default Re: arrows - just how difficult can they be?

    When I was going through this thread I was like "Why am I reading this again?"
    Seriously, there's no skill required to draw arrows and I bet that video showed only 2 of the dozens of ways of drawing them in PS. Both Adobe and Xara have videos that instruct users how to do simple stuff like that. The fact that the video shows only the most basic way to perform a task doesn't mean there are no other ways to draw (better-looking) arrows in PS.
    Who cares about how you can do such a simple task in PS compared to Xara? Let's focus on more important stuff
    Next thing you know we're comparing how far Xara users can pee compared to PS users

    P.S. If you're looking for how to draw easy arrows, then both Adobe and Xara are owned by:
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    Default Re: arrows - just how difficult can they be?

    To form an unbiased opinion of Adobe's arrow drawing I have just watched the video.

    To be fair Adobe drawing of basic arrows seems just as easy as Xara's, and the steps are pretty much the same. You draw a line and add an arrowhead - adjust to suit.

    I'm just not sure that they needed to produce a video to make it easy to understand.

    However, just to be really fair, Xara has a movie in their help files "Editing line widths, ends and joins" - Just how difficult could that be .......
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