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    Default Re: Is there a way to make my lines slightly 'wobbly' as if drawn by hand in XDPX?

    My approach creates a random line for each one.

    Create an oval 12x6px.Select this and Create a Scatter brush.
    Give it a name.
    Draw a line and Edit Brush.
    Change about eevry parameter there is:
    Spacing (to overlap): ~50%; Randomis ~90-110%.
    Offset: Alternating - Distance:~5% - Random: ~0-3%.
    Scaling Random: ~75-132%.
    Fill: All brush colours - Random Saturation: 0-~8% - Random Hue: 0-~10%.

    Drawn lines, existing shapes with Line widths, straight or angled lines all dynamically change when adjusted for width and control points.
    You can retweak a partcular line with a Re-edit without save.
    You can Break Points with Line (not Shapes) and your can Reverse Paths.

    I believe Scatter Brushes are the only Xara component that handles random.

    Some examples:

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    Acorn
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    Default Re: Is there a way to make my lines slightly 'wobbly' as if drawn by hand in XDPX?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acorn View Post
    My approach creates a random line for each one.

    Create an oval 12x6px.Select this and Create a Scatter brush.
    Give it a name.
    Draw a line and Edit Brush.
    Change about eevry parameter there is:
    Spacing (to overlap): ~50%; Randomis ~90-110%.
    Offset: Alternating - Distance:~5% - Random: ~0-3%.
    Scaling Random: ~75-132%.
    Fill: All brush colours - Random Saturation: 0-~8% - Random Hue: 0-~10%.

    Drawn lines, existing shapes with Line widths, straight or angled lines all dynamically change when adjusted for width and control points.
    You can retweak a partcular line with a Re-edit without save.
    You can Break Points with Line (not Shapes) and your can Reverse Paths.

    I believe Scatter Brushes are the only Xara component that handles random.

    Some examples:

    Click image for larger version. 

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    The top Acorn is there to emphasise the positioning of the lozenges.

    Acorn

    Clever stuff... but to get clear I need the edges of the lines to stay parallel to each other.
    i.e. The line needs to be of constant thickness.

    J

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    Default Re: Is there a way to make my lines slightly 'wobbly' as if drawn by hand in XDPX?

    the only way I know to do that in xara is to do it the way gary suggested

    you might be able to do it in a program that allowed you to define your own stroke shapes but that program is not xara...
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    Default Re: Is there a way to make my lines slightly 'wobbly' as if drawn by hand in XDPX?

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    the only way I know to do that in xara is to do it the way gary suggested
    Based on Gary's method: Set some guides and, using the Freehand and Brush Tool, try to draw a straight line. In the Select an Existing Brush dropdown window, chose a marker or chalk brush and adjust the line width to your liking. With the Freehand Smoothing slider try to approximate the line you have in mind. Further adjustments can be made with the Shape Tool.

    Perhaps this 10-years old TG-thread gives you some other ideas: https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...ook-hand-drawn.

    Or else buy some vector file: https://www.shutterstock.com/search/...-straight-line

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    Default Re: Is there a way to make my lines slightly 'wobbly' as if drawn by hand in XDPX?

    hey, nice find on the ten year old thread boy, happy days

    as that thread sorta demonstrates, a hand drawn line almost by definition does not have parallel sides unless you use something like an isograph on bristol, in which case i would not call it 'rough'; sketch maybe, rough no

    if there really must be parallel sides I still don't see a better way of doing it than gary's; I'd avoid scatter brushes which are dabs, sooner or later the overlaps will be visible; similarly art brushes with stretch...
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    Default Re: Is there a way to make my lines slightly 'wobbly' as if drawn by hand in XDPX?

    To keep a constant width for a Shape, I would use the Erase Tool, walking along the edge very steadily.
    I would use a nib size of double the Line width.
    Remember Erase can be additive with Shift+Drag.
    When done you can use the Shape Tool, delete control points and also apply smoothing.

    For a Line use the smallest Nib, Shift+Drag over the Line and then set this resultant Shape to have no Line width.

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    Acorn
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    Default Re: Is there a way to make my lines slightly 'wobbly' as if drawn by hand in XDPX?

    To save time, if you have Affinity Designer there are plenty of brushes you could use to help give lines a hand drawn look. Using an informal font can also help give a draft appearance to your drawing.

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    Default Re: Is there a way to make my lines slightly 'wobbly' as if drawn by hand in XDPX?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acorn View Post
    My approach creates a random line for each one.

    Create an oval 12x6px.Select this and Create a Scatter brush.
    Give it a name.
    Draw a line and Edit Brush.
    Change about eevry parameter there is:
    Spacing (to overlap): ~50%; Randomis ~90-110%.
    Offset: Alternating - Distance:~5% - Random: ~0-3%.
    Scaling Random: ~75-132%.
    Fill: All brush colours - Random Saturation: 0-~8% - Random Hue: 0-~10%.

    Drawn lines, existing shapes with Line widths, straight or angled lines all dynamically change when adjusted for width and control points.
    You can retweak a partcular line with a Re-edit without save.
    You can Break Points with Line (not Shapes) and your can Reverse Paths.

    I believe Scatter Brushes are the only Xara component that handles random.

    Some examples:

    Click image for larger version. 

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    The top Acorn is there to emphasise the positioning of the lozenges.

    Acorn
    That's a great trick, thanks !

    Marc
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    Default Re: Is there a way to make my lines slightly 'wobbly' as if drawn by hand in XDPX?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarcT View Post
    That's a great trick, thanks ! Marc
    Marc, thank you. I have found this Thread most productive.

    @shipen originally asked that the wobble should leave the Line width constant and the Line should not be too wobbly. He could not get the Warp to work well enough.

    I think i have refined this.
    I set the Shape Painter tool to 100px with 10 Roundness and -45deg Angle.
    I size the shape so that the tool will be mostly inside the shape as you track around. This distorts things far less than the tool centre.

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    I have found the result to be quite pleasing.

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
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