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    Default Re: Xara Designer Pro+ 22.1.0.65105 SL x64 Sep 2 2022 - Released

    @Matt & @Phil, thank you both for the new Table Tool. Is is a great advance and I want it capabilities to be as slick as possible yet easy for all to use and understand.

    The text grow/shrink is very useful.
    I simply embedded a Shape and resized and the Cell grew. When I resized back the Cell stuck at its largest so Embedded Shapes do not perform in the same fashion as text.
    What is happening is if the Shape is H600xW300px and the Cell Text Width is 100px then the Shape is shrunk to scale into the Cell Text Width but the Cell Text Height is changed to 600px. You gain an Embedded Shape H200xW100px but the Cell Height is 600px.
    When you reduce the Cell Height to its smallest, changing the Cell Height or Width scales properly.
    You missed a calculation.

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    When I rendered my Dotted Borders, I get the bottom right image.
    It shows fine in the design.

    I look forward to the RC dragging.
    It will sort out the problem with Zebra Striping.

    I get the same error when pasting copies cells that try to extend the table RC limits.

    Acorn
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    Default Re: Xara Designer Pro+ 22.1.0.65105 SL x64 Sep 2 2022 - Released

    @Matt, I like to talk through a simple example: One box Wonder.xar

    It is a single Cell Table:

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    It has 10px orange Padding.
    It has a blue grid symbol.
    It has four different borders, 4px wide apart from the 2px left edge.

    Table Menu
    Selecting the single Cell, you see the Delete Row & Delete Column icons appear.
    The Menu items for these both become disabled. I can not see their need anyhow.

    Padding
    There is no mechanism to apply non-Flat Fills or Transparencies.

    Text
    There is no detection of a glyph's width to grow the Column Width.

    Borders
    I get dots in the design but a solid purple line with circular end caps in any browser. Is stroke=url(#pattern) missing?
    There is no mechanism to alter the stacking of the borders.
    If you skew the Cell, the border ends are wholly disjointed.

    Table Cell Borders Dialog
    I think if the Dialog is open and you select something other than a Table it should hide.
    'Border Filter' should be renamed 'Applied to:'.
    Its presentation is over-complicated. It should really have four separate Styling options around a Cell.

    Key Shortcuts
    Once a table has been created, changing the number of Rows or Columns is tedious.
    Arrow keys currently table around the table nicely. Alt+Arrows could create a Row N & S and a Column E & W. Perhaps Shift+Alt_Arrows to delete?

    Acorn
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    Default Re: Xara Designer Pro+ 22.1.0.65105 SL x64 Sep 2 2022 - Released

    @Phil, can you explain the logic behind the Colour Bar disconnect?

    I would expect and want to be able to drag a colour onto the Padding and realise the tables background colour.
    Equally if I drag a colour onto a Cell in Selector mode all Cells are so coloured.
    In Table mode, a drag onto a selection colours that.
    Also a Shit-drag should handle the above for Cell Borders. I realise the difficulty of colouring four sides of the Cell would still need the Borders Dialog but that is the more exotic consideration.

    I also find the enforcement of your current dropdowns to Named colours and the Edit of a single Local colour to be highly constrictive.

    Acorn
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    Default Re: Xara Designer Pro+ 22.1.0.65105 SL x64 Sep 2 2022 - Released

    @Phil, Shift+Drag to keek the Table size works for Rows but is the opposite for Columns, contradicting the Status Bar prompt.

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    Default Re: Xara Designer Pro+ 22.1.0.65105 SL x64 Sep 2 2022 - Released

    @Phil, Merge any column and then try and select any Row.
    Unless it is the first Row, you cannot view the Delete icon to delete the Row.

    If the merged Cells are the first Column, any Row selection forces the merged Cells and the first Row only for deletion.

    You have a similar mess when adding Border styling to a merged set of Cells.
    if you unmerge, the styling is applied to only the top left Cell.

    Acorn
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    Default Re: Xara Designer Pro+ 22.1.0.65105 SL x64 Sep 2 2022 - Released

    @Phil, Solo mode a table on a Page with several tables and those other tables still present the background colour and the Cell edges.

    Acorn
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    Default Re: Xara Designer Pro+ 22.1.0.65105 SL x64 Sep 2 2022 - Released

    @Phil, any indication of at least TSV or CSV import of data into your Tables?

    Acorn
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