text in a spiral

[charliescoffee]

I got it to work using the spiral Johopen's suggested. I don't know if it would work using the Xara spiral, perhaps I just did something wrong when I tried it, but it's too late now to worry about what I might have done wrong, I got the text to spiral, I got rid of the lines, and it's doing (almost) what I wanted. My original plan was to have the text spiral from the outside in and this solution works from the inside out, but I've got a spiral and I'm not going to complain at this point about this relatively minor hitch. I can rework the overall item so the text works this way and I'm happy. Many thanks to all and especially to Johopen and Christine for your help. P.S. I'll play with reversing the text tomorrow, if that works, great, but if it doesn't, at least I've got the spiral. I've always been able to depend on TalkGraphics!!!