Hey Gents I'm hanging on by my finger tips of my ability. I have changed file name and inserted, I have done something slightly wrong but it is there on site, Use "Seniors Open" page. Had to take out brackets of fife name as it said it was invalid, did not know if you intended me to put those in or not. Have to go out for a while, do not have time to sort it out. Not too sure what you meant by using PDF or pdf. Terry