Hi Grafixman....nice to talk to you again, you will have noticed I have had to change my user name due to a mess up on my cookies. Last time you helped me I was " trebor " anyway, I am still in manchester, England and as you can see still struggling. I think I understand what you are saying I am just not sure how to do it ? Sorry to be a pain I'm still learning to use the damn thing.

many thanks again for your help I really do appreciate it.

David