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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    Eric, it seems as though you and Maya are just too fast to address and successfully complete a challenge. I wan to thank you for posting the wireframe view in XAR's native file format so others can eventually learn from it, and your approach and skills.

    Interesting things happen when a glass object is brightly lit when it's on a surface: the shadow takes on the color of the glass in places, as you see if you look carefully at the image I posted. If you don't mind, I'd like to take a crack at adding the shadows to the dinner scene.

    Maya, your work is astounding, and if this were a real contest, I'd have to disqualify you, not because your work is wrong, but that it's award-winning all the time, and I want to give others a chance to with this hypothetical award.

    Wait: I got it. Winners excluding Eric and Maya, for their finished trace get to study with Maya for a week.

    I think that's fair. :)

    I have another image challenge coming up and it's going to be a little different, and definitely approachable by beginner to intermediate artists.

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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    Yes Gary, re the shadow. As stated I'm going to give it a whirl too when I get the time.

    On the matter of Combine Shapes:

    Gary: I’ve not experienced gaps when a “slice and dice” operation is performed, but I’m usually unobservant, so it goes. One thing that creates a gap is having an outline width on any of the shapes to be processed. If, for example, each shape has a 1 point outline, when you do intersect shapes, the product will not have the precise intended dimensions. Always remove outline widths before Boolean-ing.
    I attach a simple example xar file showing what occasionally happens when slicing. I can't say it's my experience that Combining either with or without a stroke makes any difference. Have you an example?
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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    Hi Eric, I've attached my own Xara file. I did not use Slice because it does indeed produce a weird and undesired product, but to tell you the truth, all these slice and dice features are Boolean operations, and frankly when I first opened Xara, I noted that "Slice" is not in the vocabulary of Boolean ops. It could mean that the vocabulary from the quite limited Boolean phrase book is wrong. The only have stuff such as "A plus B" which is Add, and "A without B" which is subtract. So if the leaf is the desired result, all I did was do an Intersect and the leaf is a valid, proper shape.

    I've got an example on page two that shows it you want an array of a specific value of squares, like a chess board, if your source square has an outline, you'll get a different value thean if you create the array with a copy function.

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    Hi Gary,

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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    Weird. I just clicked the ink, and here's the story (in pictures ):

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    I'm attaching a zip here in case the XAR mime type went off the tg forum for some reason, and I did take a cursory which at shading the blue bottle on the table. It's part shadow and part transmitted blue.



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    My Best,

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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

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ID:	105905Okay, here comes #3.

    I think this should be a lot easier; there's really no need for a gradient in any area, I don't believe.

    And I even put a blank label on the bottle so you can create your own toilet water. How good does that get?!


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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    Many thanks, Egg, Hajeem, and Gare for the kind words about my image.
    I always see more things to adjust the next day...and after working at night at the computer things show much better in the daylight...so I fixed part of the wire rack, adjusted line tones, the shape of the shadow under the rack and enhanced its greenish hue more. Little things, and it'll never be perfect, whatever that is, but I'm satisfied with it for now.

    I could never be any kind of teacher for Xara, I've been mostly self-taught from early on experimenting with what Xara can do, but have been continually learning from Gare's great tutorials and advice, which I can never thank him enough for (oh, and for his patience too).
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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    Hi Gary, seems to have sorted itself out now. Previously it wasn't showing as an attachment but inline with the rest of your text. :/

    Eric, rather than using the Slice
    command, try intersect if the goal
    ‘is to make a leaf.
    ...and yes, the Slice command
    produced a screwed-up result.
    Perhaps the code doesn’t work
    properly on the tangents of
    shapes.
    No I'm not trying to create a leaf, the object of the xar was to show that the Combine shapes can & does create rougue nodes and sometimes unwanted spaces. I was just supplying it as an example.

    I've got an example on page two that shows it you want an array of a specific value of squares, like a chess board, if your source square has an outline, you'll get a different value thean if you create the array with a copy function.
    Sorry, just can't agee with that. If you slice a shape with a line, the line width is of no importance. It slices exactly the same if the line has a 64px line width or a line width of 0px .

    If the remaining sliced object has a line width it may APPEAR to have different value regarding size but this is just down to the state of the "Scale Line Width" icon, not the slicing operation. In your supplied example both left and right examples have squares of 53.1px. The only reason Xara is reporting the left side squares as 57.1px is you have "Scale Line Width" activated, so 53.1px plus a 4px line width = a reported 57.1 px square (strokes being half in & half out of the shape) . Toggle it off and Xara states the size of the square as 53.1px.
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    Default Re: January 2015 Video Tutorial -- Tracing Is Not Cheating!

    Finally added a label, shadow and a bit more highlights. I don't want to do another glass jar for at least 10 years
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