Thanks very much Frances....I like the last one best too......anyone that doesn't see value in doing and re-doing a tutorial, well, there's the proof.....it's getting better to do and I'm doing it much quicker also.....lots of room for improvement still though I see. If you have suggestions for improvement, I'm certainly all ears.....hmmm, maybe someone should do a graphic on that one?

No, that was an avatar done with another 'moulding' type program. I wish it was based on First Nations but it was just an accident that I liked....