How about lean version of Xtreme

[amoore]

Eliminating buttons won't layer retention go away.

And I do not want to be confronted with a blasted popup every time I paste.

[PhilM]

Hi everyone,

Can I suggest that it would be more useful to pursue ways of fixing those individual problems within the existing product versions (as some posts above have suggested) rather than thinking about new versions of the program, which are highly unlikely to happen for all sorts of reasons.

For one thing: The "Pro" version, by definition, will always contain all functionality and so that version, at least, needs to have any problems in it fixed because the functions or clashes can't be removed.

Also, more specialised versions of the program would make the product line very confusing for customers and difficult to handle w.r.t maintenance, releases, support and upgrades.

So a "lean" version is not a realistic option (and one person's definition of "lean" will always differ from another's).

The intention is that new features ideally should not adversely impact on existing functions and that you should be able to simply ignore the functions you don't use. (Remember that in the creative process, you may find unexpected uses for tools in the future.)

The slowness of loading Photoshop plugins is unfortunate. Not sure we can do anything about that but the workaround, if you don't use them, is just to reset the plugins path so that Xtreme doesn't try to load them.

We made a mistake with the Paste/Layer functionality. We didn't realise that you relied so much on Paste putting everything on a single layer.

Happilly, there is a workaround for that issue too! There's another of Xara's famous secret-squirrel registry settings to make it work the old way. In the registry, set Options\Clipboard\MultiLayerClipboard to 0.

Phil

[handrawn]

I see smiling faces Phil - thanks for that

[steve.ledger]

Great response Phil, many thanks - much appreciated.
One for the next XaReg update I imagine.

[Soquili]

Yes another XaReg update will be forthcoming. Thanks Phil!

[amoore]

Oh yaaayyy. Phil!!! thx thx thx. indeed.

And TIA to Bill for updating XaReg.

[MarcT]

Thanks Phil!

Marc

[jclements]

Just make sure you don't cut and Paste a soft group without checking to see if it is has "multi-layered" objects.

[tonylondon]

put a bit simplistically..
this has expanded now to a point where I am not at all sure which of the three strings: 'vector' 'fun-with-photos' or 'HTML generation' is the most important in terms of the product itself; but know I still only need the first

This sums up my situation too. A fourth string - DTP - also interests me and I always look out for the developments in this area, although there is a long way to go. It would be great to be able to dispense with Indesign.

I support what Phil says too. I'll carry on buying upgrades provided there is enough extra in my two 'strings' of interest, irrespective of the rest of the developments.

In my use of the program I haven't encountered the problems cited in this thread.

[Soquili]

Hi Tony,

I will keep upgrading Xtreme Pro and other Xara apps as long as I am still around and Xara continues to create them.

Even with a few issues, Xara (in my opinion) creates the greatest programs around.

My initial post requesting a lean version was a personal wish but in no way would keep me from enjoying Xtreme Pro as my primary drawing application.