Yea Jens... this is pretty old hat...but... try to remember that ZBrush is relatively new in this area and is going through a growth spurt even as we type this... I really don't think these two apps can or should be compared... C4D does what it does and same same for ZBrush... in fact I think they compliment each other... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]