Multiple pages and layers

[PixelDust]

PatentGuy, that seems to be what's happening with me. I have the registry set to "All Pages the Same" off, and I can have different sized or oriented pages.

But all the pages have the same layers, and removing objects from a layer or removing the layer, removes it from all pages.

So, I guess I wasn't doing anything wrong. It seems the Name Gallery is what I should use, since I can have different names for different objects on different pages.

[PatentGuy]

So, I guess I wasn't doing anything wrong. It seems the Name Gallery is what I should use, since I can have different names for different objects on different pages.

If you want to have different layers for each page, I think the layer gallery would help. If the page numbers are fixed, you could organize the layer names by including the page number in the name.

Unfortunately, the name gallery is limited and if you have too many layers, it may get confusing very quickly. Others have requested a hierarchical structure for layers.

[pauland]

It sounds rather buggy.

Of course, what's really missing are master pages for layers that should be on every page and for the rest the layers should only exist on specific pages.

[steve.ledger]

Definately.
And again, even more appropriate given the HTML export capabilities.

[covoxer]

Oh well...

How it is supposed to work:
All pages are supposed to have exactly the same set of layers no matter what. This is a rule.

The tweak with AllPagesTheSame is not official feature, it was never even tested enough to make sure it is stable at all. I don't know which layer behavior was expected with AllPgaesTheSame=0, but it's easy to see, that it is not consistent.

So, if you have problems using AllPagesTheSame=0, I'm afraid I can't advice anything better then turn it to AllPagesTheSame=1.

The presence of the unique leyers for every page conflicts with Xara ideology. I suppose it's stated somwhere in the manual.

So, don't look for a way to have unique layers on every page. Learn to work with a global set of layers instead.

At least, until following realeases.

Good luck.

[steve.ledger]

Oh well...

How it is supposed to work:
All pages are supposed to have exactly the same set of layers no matter what. This is a rule.

Oh well.. The rule could be changed I think.

I don't know which layer behavior was expected with AllPgaesTheSame=0, but it's easy to see, that it is not consistent.

Effectively making all pages 'not' the same, I would assume changes the behaviour of all pages from being the same to no longer the same. IOW, each page of a multi-page doc being independent of other pages for layout/size/layers/guides etc. This actually works this way before you save the doc, so obviously it's possible. Until recently, it was unknown that certain independent features of all pages (being not the same), would be a problem and revert to Xara 'rulings' once saved. Yes it's an undocument feature, yes it isn't a Xara rule, but that doesn't mean it isn't desireable or indeed as of right now, a requested and supported feature.

So, if you have problems using AllPagesTheSame=0, I'm afraid I can't advice anything better then turn it to AllPagesTheSame=1.

Understood.

The presence of the unique leyers for every page conflicts with Xara ideology. I suppose it's stated somwhere in the manual.

I've not seen any statement from Xara in the manual about their ideology John.
I must say this 'like it or lump it' attitude isn't helpful.

As I have said a few times now, the ability to have each page of a multi-page doc treated indpendently and individually is desirable and a requested feature. It makes sense for many types of publications and is especially pertinent now that we have your HTML export funcionality. Before you reply saying that we must create seperate publications and then link them, that's not a solution - it's an excuse.

So, don't look for a way to have unique layers on every page. Learn to work with a global set of layers instead.

Why not? Why shouldn't we request a feature is added? Isn't this what user feedback is all about? Isn't this why Xara seek thousands of users to pay for upgrades, and why Xara/Magix are chasing new users? Funds for *development* ?
We aren't going to roll over and stop asking just because you say so..

[PatentGuy]

We aren't going to roll over and stop asking just because you say so..

Bravo! I could not have said it better.