Originally Posted by
Dai
<snip>Sort out the svg issue <snip>
I came today specifically to post what I'd seen in a newish application
which includes xaralx - that being "*******", a derivative of ***** linux...
and, in that distribution, SVG output works right out of the box... first time
I'd seen this in any linux distro, so it's worth knowing. EDIT: whoops !
big mistake here... the distro originally mentioned here does not in fact
have SVG support at all... I mistook this for EPS export, which is standard
in the download version of xaralx... again, my apologies for this !
<snip> promote the use of XaraLX to the ordinary Linux user and the development will take care of it's self. The greater the use of XaraLX by ordinary Linux users the more pressure from the community to get the developers involved with the development of XaraLX.<snip>
couldnt agree more with this point... however... seeing XaraLX in
"*******" is one such example of [promoting] the application more...
actually, debian seems to have caught the xaralx bug, and is now
including it, along with a xara-specific SVG import/export library...
so... debian being as popular as it is, this should certainly help.
EDIT: the debian comment still holds true... unfortunately, my mention
of the other distro is entirely wrong... not supporting any svg whatsoever... my apologies.
<snip> What's needed is greater use not development. So this begs the question how do we promote the use XaraLX to the community. Even Xara will pull the plug if no one uses it. <snip>
I still agree with you on this : - ) Really the most important concern
relating to its use is in fact it's [perceived useability]... and here I think
is the factor most discouraging new users... XaraLX, at least in any
form I've seen it, is very ragged and even broken in many places... it
takes an experienced user to sift through the pieces to find what is
actually a very workable program, though, packaged with all this unfinished code...
nothing less appealing than working an hour on a picture to find... oops...
the PDF output - after we find it - is raster, instead of scalable... or
similar. The typical response to this has been... xaralx is in working
condition, but is provided as is... fine with me, but the question here
is how to convince new users to pick it up and try it.
I dont know what version the "*******" group is using, or what
libraries they have included, but that version is as close to the full-blown
windows edition as any I have seen... soooooo... my suggestion here is,
maybe we should be endorsing some linux distribution, such as "*******"
which has this excellent version of xaralx going for it, instead of directing
users to download what are essentially develop versions ?
EDIT: yes... this remains a good plan... but it seems it will be debian
which first offers full SVG support, not the distro I mentioned in error...
apologies again.
<snip> As it stands XaraLX is the equal (if not better than) Inkscape, so there should not be any difficulty in promoting XaraLX.<snip>
Well... this kind of approach begs a "yes... it's much better", or,
"no... I dont think its so much better", or other kind of opinion.
In fact, XaraLX and Inkscape are still two very different programs,
both of which produce vector drawings. I use Inkscape to edit
xara drawings, and vice-versa... I happen to prefer XaraLX as a
drawing tool however.
<snip>Have you any ideas on how we promote XaraLX to the Linux community.<snip>
why yes... yes I do... please see above : - )
EDIT: oh... and also... please disregard my references to "teen---" as an answer...
it is a nice distro, but, unfortunately, -not- the solution I mistook it for.
Thanks
Dai
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