I saw a Mail Label I liked.... I was going to do in Xara (I do projects to learn about the program & end up with something useful -usually) Anyway, I was doing fine, until (sigh) I got to Shapes and the Adding, Subtracting, Intersecting, Slicing... figure there was something I was doing in wrong order and/or misunderstanding. I ended up going to Illustrator to do; but, would still like to do in Xara, if I post here (jpg and/or .xar), can I get some input, to see where I strayed from accompolishing my aim? Tom