I was having problems aligning a text object, and th=ried this approach. I created a text string and converted it to editable shapes. I aligned the test and bitmap with the Xara X alignment tool. Then applied a clipview, and grouped the result. Then reinserted the bitmap, and aligned it with the clipview. This aligned everything perfectly. I have been trying alignment ideas by drawing lines to objects, and grouping them to establish repeatable control points. I found that some times I would lose the position. Just me. I then used the box to set the rotational point. Rich
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