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    Default Re: MS Expression Graphic Designer CTP

    I checked and, as you may well have found out, the official download from Microsoft for Expression Graphic Designer CTP is no longer available

    If you find another link from another source I would advise caution and making absolutely sure you trust it....
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    Default Re: MS Expression Graphic Designer CTP

    c'était rapide mon ami...

    E3.3 beta tends to crash above 1920 x 1080 resolution, does this ?
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    Default Re: MS Expression Graphic Designer CTP

    Perhaps I have an answer or two:

    I participated in the Microsoft version to come after 3.3. It was terrific, and in Microsoft's traditional style, they screwed it up beyond belief when it was finally released. They had terrific new features such as HSV jitter, so recursive objects you draw will be just a touch different than the previous.

    It's hard if not impossible to find the Creature house Expressions v 3.3. Last I knew, if you nosed around Microsoft's site, you might find it.

    I'm still using 3.3 because there ain't a feature in MS's release that isn't in 3.3 except perhaps the Microsoft release has a dumb interface.

    I'm more than a little pissed off that they has a wonderful version up to the night of the release, and then ruined it, especially because I had a book written, ready to publish, but couldn't because the UI changed.

    But I'm running Windows 10 at 1440px progressive and aside from some wonky palette placements when you try to move them, all's good with this ancient program that has not been surpassed in its niche.




    Oh, and 3.3 can still import a Xara clipboard copy as vectors.


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    My best,

    Gary
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    cheers Gary - I did not know about MS changing tack at the last minute, I thought they had always intended for the released version
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    Default Re: MS Expression Graphic Designer CTP

    Hi handrawn—

    Just looked and I still have screen captures. I suppose there's no sense in posting one. First, it's never going to happen, a good update. So now, Microsoft has bought Altamira Composer and trashed it, bought SoftImage, sold it off to Autodesk who trashed it, Visio? Gone.Same deal with trueSpace.

    Microsoft buys creative software and then ruins it, and then abandons it!


    Well, the other reason for not positing an example here is that Barbara is going to delete this whole thread. As Telephone posted, it serves no use. Tryad, your account will be deleted tomorrow. you're welcome.


    My Best,

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    Default Re: MS Expression Graphic Designer CTP

    oki doki ... no loss I guess

    one way to get big is to disable the competition....even, maybe especially, if they are better....
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    Default Re: MS Expression Graphic Designer CTP

    and the software I talked about is dead so there is no risk
    you miss the point - if the software is 'dead' then you can only download it from a third party who may have added things to the installer that you really don't want on your computer; a security risk
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    Default Re: MS Expression Graphic Designer CTP

    you cannot delete - only mods can

    the rules were given to you when you joined - you did not read/keep them? - mods again could point you to them again

    I make no judgement on the website you linked to, but the question is always, if this service is provided at no cost, how is it paid for?
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    Default Re: MS Expression Graphic Designer CTP

    Quote Originally Posted by tryphon4 View Post
    This morning, I finally found Expression Graphic Designer 2006 CTP on a reliable website.
    There is a drawback: in order to use it, you must go back to 2006.

    Compared to 3.3 beta, there are some interesting new functions (e.g. the Variations window is hugely useful to me, the interface is better, the zoom goes to 128x) so eveything is fine. I will keep both versions, they are a good complement to Xara.
    CROSS-POSTED with @Barbara B

    Sorry to burst your bubble but in Post#1 you ask for a source, which by Post#4 you magically find one. Sorry but TG cannot condone offering links to media that have no provenance other that the originator. In any case, resetting your machine to 2006 is not viable. By all means have a virtual machine running it but overall this is a clutch of exploits waiting for a sucker.

    @Gare, I would love a Xara Export SVG to Clipboard utility.
    Presently, I Preview > Dev Tools > copy SVG fragment > Paste into Boxy SVG that I pay for annually.
    I can also do the same into Affinity Designer2 where is imports as a Windows Meta File.

    Perhaps someone can describe its capabilities?

    Wikepedia has a link to a Fan Site that offers Expression Design 4, but again at your own risk.

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