Pull my everything lol... no biggie... I am too old and tired to deal with such bs... lol... It's been a slice... 3500 posts later, and good enough for me... I cut my teeth on modeling here... as did many... twas great fun over the years... certainly learned a lot, including introducing Bay's looping techniques... we held many discussions both here and at spiroloid, where we got really got schooled and passed it on here at TG... Are you even remotely familiar with such? Anyways, gardens to tend to, food to cook and stock up on... cheers just the same.