Upgrde?

**jeb** · 28 June 2021, 10:11 PM

I presently have Designer Pro X 12.4.1.47518 DL x64 Nov 17 2016 and when I open it, it has an offer of $99 to upgrade to DESIGNER PRO X 18.

When I click on the link, it takes me to a Magix page that has shows DESIGNER PRO X - but does not show WHICH PRO X it is.

When I go to Xara site it shows A SUBSCRIPTION FOR DESIGNER+ 21.3 but not the $99 - with discount, over $200.

So what gives - If I upgrade to the $99 PRO X, what is the difference?

If I upgrade to the 21.3 and then do not renew next year, does it quit working or can I continue to use it but it does not update any more?

Tks - jb

**Chris M** · 28 June 2021, 10:52 PM

Others will go into the pros and cons in detail, but in a nutshell:

Magix is up to v18 and can be used if you do not renew. You lose online content unless you manually download within your subscription.
Xata is up to v21 and ceases to work altogether if you do not renew.

There are big advantages to the Xara offering, but as I don't use it, I'll leave the details to someone who does.

**jeb** · 29 June 2021, 04:09 PM

Tks, Chris - no other replies here and it has been two days since I sent an email to Xara and no reply.

Over what I presently have in my 12.4, the only thing I would really like would be the ability to better improve clarity of photos.

Is there much difference between the Magix 18 and the Xara 21.4? Would think that there should be a major difference to justify more than double in price.

Also, you mention the ability to download the whole program from magix and continue using it going forward?

Again, tks for the reply - jb

**handrawn** · 29 June 2021, 04:23 PM

version 18 you can keep [apart from the online catalog etc if you have not downloaded it] magix support this, xara do not, the updates are few and far between; magix support is....difficult

version 21 is technically xara pro+ [as opposed to just pro] it is the only program xara now support - you get frequent updates, but you lose it if you stop paying - the two channels, magix and xara run side by side

no-one has yet said what will happen when the magix version reaches version 21, and as is par for the course with xara, there will be yet more totally unneccessary confusion over version names

but that aside, you can get a discount on pro+ which brings it down approx 50%

**jeb** · 29 June 2021, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by handrawn

version 18 you can keep [apart from the online catalog etc if you have not downloaded it] magix support this, xara do not, the updates are few and far between; magix support is....difficult

version 21 is technically xara pro+ [as opposed to just pro] it is the only program xara now support - you get frequent updates, but you lose it if you stop paying - the two channels, magix and xara run side by side

no-one has yet said what will happen when the magix version reaches version 21, and as is par for the course with xara, there will be yet more totally unneccessary confusion over version names

but that aside, you can get a discount on pro+ which brings it down approx 50%

Tks, Hand - I started using Xara's 3-D program back when it was only 1 of 3 programs they offered, I think. I bought the very first Designer program and have used them for years now. I hadn't even opened Xara until a few weeks ago but back when I bought and used version 12 the service from Xara had gone down markedly.

I am moving my web site from Startlogic and one of the questions I need answered is my present Xara web site PHP 7.4 or above. I have sent an email to Xara but no answer.

Again, tks for the reply - take care - jb