Scaling issue workaround?

[gwpriester]

I think you are referring to Lock Aspect Ratio.

When this option is enabled, selections scale proportionately. When it is disabled, selections scale independently horizontally or vertically.

[feklee]

What program?

Designer Pro X11.

Can you provide an example?

Unscaled:


After entering W 1000px in the Infobar, then hitting enter:


I'd expect the drawing to scale, but instead some unwanted magic is happening.

I think you are referring to Lock Aspect Ratio.

No, and that's disabled.

The question is: Bug or feature? And is there an easy workaround?

Concerning workaround, I found that the issue does not happen when scaling width and height. Say the drawing is 1000×1000 px², and you want to change width to 1200 px, then:

1. Scale the drawing in both directions, for example to: 800×800 px²
2. Scale the drawing in both directions to 1200×1000 px².

Cumbersome, obviously.

[mwenz]

Scaling is proportional in both directions. Stretching is what you are doing when only one dimension is altered and the lock aspect is not active.

[mikeymopar]

first, what template did you use?
also, scaling, no matter how it's done will scale everything. going from 1000 to 1200 including openings and if not on a separate layer, doors, stair treads, etc. will stretch 20% also. no matter what, it's gonna be hard to stretch bits and pieces without affecting others

one thing you can do so it doesn't stretch from the middle is after selecting what you want to stretch then just to the left of the x and y position on the top change the origin position from center to the middle left or right block (kinda looks like a rubik's cube). then it'll stretch from that direction and not proportionally from the center

[gwpriester]

Your illustrations do not show scaling. The eyes in the center remain the same size. But in the second example the left and right sides of the drawing have been moved outward as my attachment shows.

[feklee]

Scaling is proportional in both directions. Stretching is what you are doing when only one dimension is altered and the lock aspect is not active.

That's Xara lingo then. In other software, scaling is also in just one direction. For example, in Rhino 3D, there is Scale1D, Scale2D, and Scale3D.

Seems it may be related to groups; could you post the .xar file for your .png examples?

example.xar

first, what template did you use?

I tried web, print, and photo.

also, scaling, no matter how it's done will scale everything.

That's the intention, but not what Xara is doing.

[mikeymopar]

your example.xar stretched in width only to 1200 for me by entering 1200 for "W". height remained the same (1084px)
or did i miss something???

(and also, like i said, you can make scaling in just one direction by changing the origin point tho it won't matter if you're scaling every single object)

[Rik]

I'm not sure what I'm missing here?!

Assuming I've understood the OP's problem.
I think Gary has already answered the question as to what is happening.

The original image is 770x1085px

With the 'Lock aspect ratio' not selected, I entered 1000 into the width. And as expected, only the width is altered. (First pic)
With the 'Lock aspect ratio' selected, I entered 1000 into the width. And as expected, both the width and the height altered. (Second pic)

Select the images and see the measurements.

So, can someone explain to me what the problem is?
I'm using XDP11.

[Acorn]

This has been a useful example document to experiment with.

With the shapes all selected (marqueed), click on one of the edge control points and hold it down.
Now look at the status line, which describes (tersely) the variety of effects the meta-keys contribute.

Drag the object to extend it.
Still with the control held down, press the Ctrl, Shift & Alt keys to discover the effects.
Don't hold these keys down before holding the control point.

I don't think any of this depends on it being a prin or web pages; simply in web-land the Alt selection has been pre-selected.

Regarding the OP's request on how to do the above, entering values into the control boxes, the simple answer is you can't.
The workaround is to understand the above and to zoom the work area large enough to allow finer pointer movement to get to the required width.

Acorn

[Fred C]

Seems it may be related to groups; could you post the .xar file for your .png examples?