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  1. #1
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    Default Re: Of Bottle Caps and Water Droplets

    I think they look great as they are, brilliant job Frank.
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    Default Re: Of Bottle Caps and Water Droplets

    thanks
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    Default Re: Of Bottle Caps and Water Droplets

    I payed with a shadow around the edge a bit.
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    Default Re: Of Bottle Caps and Water Droplets

    I'm not saying mine is perfect, but, hopefully I can show what I mean!

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    Hopefull you can see the difference between my shadow and your shadow.
    With respect, your shadow looks very unnatural.

    Also, you can see that Boy is trying to point out the same thing.

    Featured Artist on Xara Xone . May 2011
    . A Shield . My First Tutorial
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    Default Re: Of Bottle Caps and Water Droplets

    I think it depends NOT JUST where the dominate light source is coming from, but how much light is produced from other
    areas in and around the object being drawn.
    In the real world, there are often more than one light source. Sometimes the light sources coming from different directions are of equal strength
    but more often there is one that is dominant.
    So, for me, to say that one shadow is correct over another is not accurate. It depends on the artists intention.
    You, however, may for aesthetic reasons, prefer a certain shadow over another. Neither is wrong or more correct or more natural.
    Here's a couple of actual photos showing just how different shadows can actually be in the real world.
    http://anthonyryder.fineaw.com/produ...5_Untitled.jpg http://maverick.inria.fr/Publication...bresDouces.jpg
    Notice this photo has numerous shadows coming from single objects, all shadows varying in degree of intensity. (multiple)
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    I'm not saying mine is perfect, but, hopefully I can show what I mean!

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    Hopefull you can see the difference between my shadow and your shadow.
    With respect, your shadow looks very unnatural.

    Also, you can see that Boy is trying to point out the same thing.
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    Default Re: Of Bottle Caps and Water Droplets

    you're absolutely right ron
    light sources and shadows is a huge topic of its own
    getting it right is often a matter of interpretation
    If someone tried to make me dig my own grave I would say No.
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    Default Re: Of Bottle Caps and Water Droplets

    The only point I'm trying to make is that irrespective of light source, intensity, or the number of light sources, it's not likely that the shadow is going to be of the same darkness at point 1 and point 2.

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    Featured Artist on Xara Xone . May 2011
    . A Shield . My First Tutorial
    . Bottle Cap . My Second Tutorial on Xara Xone

 

 

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