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  1. #1
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    Default Re: Help creating this "glowing lines" effect

    Hi Scott,
    Xara isn't able to handle (read render) that EPS file correctly because it relies heavily on blend modes that Xara doesn't support directly.
    You can however achieve similar results using the tools Xara provides. I remember i've used similar effects before in some stuff I've done. They are somewhere in my old PC.
    Another thing that makes the file problematic to work with is that it uses symbols (with blend modes) repeated over and over again in different scales and positions, making the rendering a very complex process. Best way to go about it is to separate one of those symbols and check it out separately in another document.
    It would be great if they added some more blend modes to the transparency tool (like color dodge). It would make things easier. A nice request to add to Dear Xara.

    [EDIT] Here´s some examples created entirely in Xara (cropped from a portfolio pdf, i´m looking for the original XAR file):
    - OpenOffice nº3 ,
    - Image created for a Stop & Post thread although not exactly glowing
    - some old text effects (960)
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    Default Re: Help creating this "glowing lines" effect

    (ps. why does this forum log me out SO fast. I always copy what I've written before hitting submit because 9/10 times, it won't let me post until I log back in - multiple computer, multiple browsers, enough so that I've established a ctrl-A/ctrl-c habit so I don't lose the post info.)
    When you log in there is a checkbox that says something like remember me or keep me logged in, make sure this is checked and you won't get logged out when your page has been idle too long.

    I also remember Black Panther posting a mini tutorial for a glowing effect, I don't have time to search for it now but I'll try to get back with link later if no one else finds it in the meantime.
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    Default Re: Help creating this "glowing lines" effect

    Your #3 and "stop & post" are on the right track to what I'm trying to do and for the purpose of this example, knowing how you created those would probably go a long way to solving my issue. Thanks for your input on this.

    Regarding the import: I mostly always have issues with imports that are really complex and not a PDF. Hopefully this will improve in the future.

    Getting some additional blend modes would be great (as would ME learning the ones we already have and using them effectively). I have so many "rote processes" that I'm comfortable with, I've kind of stopped learning some of the deeper sections of the program. Just this week, while messing with this concept, I learned how to do a few extra things along the way from watching a few PS tutorials and applying the concepts to Xara. Texture overlays on an object to make the object look like the texture is part of it (one I should have known but just didn't see it done in the way I found in the tut) and stained glass transparency on a clouds fill over a multi-colored eliptical transparency applied to circles on the underlying layer and how you can create some cool abstract things with extensions of that idea are two examples off the top of my head.

    Scott
    PS - Angelize: thanks for the "remember me" tip. I'm trying it now, so I'll see if it works...

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    Default Re: Help creating this "glowing lines" effect

    So - I've looked at a number of tutorials on how to use the color burn options in Photoshop and it's almost definitely what I need in order to do this effect. I have tried to find other ways to approximate this with combinations of other features, such as a combinations of overlay layers or plugins, but I'm not there yet. I may have to deal with this in Gimp or my (old) Cs2 version of Photoshop, but still looking!

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    Default Re: Help creating this "glowing lines" effect

    Quote Originally Posted by angelize View Post
    I also remember Black Panther posting a mini tutorial for a glowing effect, I don't have time to search for it now but I'll try to get back with link later if no one else finds it in the meantime.
    Frances maybe you mean this one http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthre...light=tutorial

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    Default Re: Help creating this "glowing lines" effect

    Hey, I tried to make a fast example of the way to do it... I mainly use gaussian blur and transparencies, I hope it helps Attached the .XAR file As I see on that site header there is a lot of blur & transparencies, try experementing with the settings
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    Blend tool gives a nice effect too!
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    Default Re: Help creating this "glowing lines" effect

    Scott

    Are you are Xara users? There are more than enough really excellent solutions offered here. You will learn more if you try to follow some of these and then try to figure out how to make these work for you.

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    Default Re: Help creating this "glowing lines" effect

    LogoMount I like how you did, especially the first one.

    Maybe this topic could be once in a XaraXone tutorial, in the past also was similiar thread about abstract lines or something like that

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    Default Re: Help creating this "glowing lines" effect

    Gary - yes, I've been using Xara for several years. Unfortunately, the only one that's really close to my example so far is the glowing text example shown in Black Panther's referenced post. The "color dodge" examples that I've found (for just about anything BUT Xara) are precisely the effect I'm trying to achieve. So, I'm looking for either something that truly approximates that or I will need to do it elsewhere. I've tried just about all of the solutions offered and none really quite get there. My own experiments have been only moderately successful, but have been in the general area of the other options offered so far.

    As mentioned in my first post in the thread, I DO want to learn something more within Xara that will get me there, but the more I look at the other examples, the more I think I was on the right track to begin with and I'm possibly asking too much of XDP - at least without significantly more effort than would be needed in another application to do the same.

    Do you have anything else to offer that might get me the same effects as Color dodge would?

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    Default Re: Help creating this "glowing lines" effect

    Quote Originally Posted by csehz View Post
    Yes that's the one Thanks for finding it!
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