right aligned web-page

[steve.ledger]

The origin point in web browsers is top-left. Changing things to right doesn't work because of this.
To align right you need some dynamic code that detects the how far from the origin the right is and this would depend on many factors.
It's unconventional and you don't see it because, well... what's the point?

[Guest]

The origin point in web browsers is top-left. Changing things to right doesn't work because of this.
To align right you need some dynamic code that detects the how far from the origin the right is and this would depend on many factors.
It's unconventional and you don't see it because, well... what's the point?

Oh bummer - that seems like bad news / a complicated solution.
I think that left aligned and right aligned are definedly worth beeing re-considered in times where fast Internet-Connections are a standard.
On now can use individually created (centered and non-scolling) Page-Background as quite an important Design-Element of single pages.

Trying such a Design with a centered page is pretty limiting as the left and right margins are pretty narrow - non centered makes more sense
here. Personally - from a Design point of view I would rather read on the right side and place Background Graphics to the left. That's why I
thought of Right Alignment. Does that now make at least some sense to you?

Do you have experiences how non-centered pages look on Ipads and such?

Thanks Sledger!

[pauland]

Most web sites are centred because of the desire to balance the page within it's web browser context. Right aligning upsets the balance - particularly for western viewers who are taught to read from left to right.

I think you don't see right-aligned websites for a very good reason.

I don't follow why internet speeds are relevant to alignment.

[Guest]

Hi Pauland,

Right aligning upsets the balance - particularly for western viewers who are taught to read from left to right.

sorry, I solely asked for technical advise here, I'm not interested in leading a Usability-Discussion.
I'm convinced one could create highly attractive and inviting right-aligned Websites.

I don't follow why internet speeds are relevant to alignment.

Only some years ago one had to be very economic with kilobytes. That was one of the reasons why
mostly tiled or uni-colored backgrounds were in use. Nowadays as one is no longer bound by bandwith-limitations
one can also use individually created Page-Backgrounds to support the Content of a single page.
It no longer has to serve as a neutral backplate or invitation for a romantic mood (aka dawn+palm-trees) but that may
mean that Background-Images have considerable size in kb. But using that option works better if the Page is off center.
Is this a bit clearer now?

This is a sample page for Left-Aligned which somewhat demonstrates this principle. It of course could be applied to right-aligned.

[steve.ledger]

You could use the left aligned page tweak and then create a very long horizontal website like this
► http://www.clholloway.co.za/

[Guest]

You could use the left aligned page tweak and then create a very long horizontal website like this
► http://www.clholloway.co.za/

Thanks but that is again something entirely else

I was not aware that right-aligned causes technical problems.
So, if there's no easy fix I rather use left aligned instead.

[steve.ledger]

Thanks but that is again something entirely else

I forgot to add the smile and wink emoticons

[pauland]

Hi Pauland,

sorry, I solely asked for technical advise here, I'm not interested in leading a Usability-Discussion.

That's the trouble with open forums, people often don't do as you expect or want them to. You might not be interested, but others may be, or they can just politely ignore my comment.

Only some years ago one had to be very economic with kilobytes. That was one of the reasons why
mostly tiled or uni-colored backgrounds were in use. Nowadays as one is no longer bound by bandwith-limitations
one can also use individually created Page-Backgrounds to support the Content of a single page.
It no longer has to serve as a neutral backplate or invitation for a romantic mood (aka dawn+palm-trees) but that may
mean that Background-Images have considerable size in kb. But using that option works better if the Page is off center.
Is this a bit clearer now?

Maybe clearer for you, but it has no relevance to how a page is aligned.

This is a sample page for Left-Aligned which somewhat demonstrates this principle. It of course could be applied to right-aligned.

Yes, I'm familiar, suprisingly, with the notion of left-alignment.

I know polyxo isn't interested in a Usability discussion, but others may wish to check out the csszen garden. This does feature some designs that use right-handed menus and the like. You will find that these are not actually right-aligned designs, but fluid designs that will balance the page, either at the centre, or across the entire width (regardless of browser size). This kind of adaptability comes from CSS layouts and is not possible out of the box with Xara.

[Guest]

That's the trouble with open forums, people often don't do as you expect or want them to. You might not be interested, but others may be, or they can just politely ignore my comment.

I just preferred to get a technical solution if someone feels invited to spend a thought on this.
How about a new thread on that matter?

Maybe clearer for you, but it has no relevance to how a page is aligned.

It definedly has a relevance as stated several times before in this thread.
If margin is 100% then a centrally aligned page gives you two times 50% which may or may be not what you want.
Off-center gives you 100%.

[pauland]

It definedly has a relevance as stated several times before in this thread.
If margin is 100% then a centrally alligned pages gives you two times 50% which may or may be not what you want.
Off center gives you 100%.

I was talking about internet speed. I have no idea what the quote above is intended to explain (and I do understand margins), but no matter.

Carry on without me.