Quote Originally Posted by Caseydave View Post
So we are producing sub standard rubbish that takes no knowledge of graphic design, animation, programming or any other cutting edge media into consideration let alone marketing.
You might be, but I'm certainly not. Every site I design takes all of the above into consideration, but that doesn't mean I use it. Those designers who add the above "because I can" are lost in a world of their own ego. At the end of the day it's the message that matters not the medium.

In addition to that corporations who have glossy bruchures, full page adverts in Cosmo and TV adverts have the budget for all of your "cutting edge media". However, 99% of businesses that both want and need a website do not. I work with what the client can afford, not with what he might like. Reality is a great leveller.

Quote Originally Posted by Caseydave View Post
There are so many brilliant web sites which out-rank brain dead TV commercials.
There are so many brilliant TV commercials which out-rank brain dead web sites.

There are so many brilliant bicycles which out-rank brain dead motorcycles.

There are so many brilliant bed-and-breakfasts which out-rank brain dead international hotel chains.

You're not comparing like for like.