Yeah, everything is summarised nicely in my post. The rest is the usual misunderstanding and misinterpretation unfortunately (from both sides). I bet one day when WD's or Xtreme's feature set is fully replete and can do everythign that can be acieved by HTML coding, the WYSIWYG approach to website design will become the preferred way. It's been seen before in word processing, and PDF generation. HTML will take longer but will ultimately be no different in my bet.