Brush Edit detail - what do these do?

[ajreed]

I'm playing, and learning, and hitting silly little mental blockages .....

My current fly-in-the-ointment is those 'All...' 'No...' 'Name brush colour' options in the Fill Properties tab under Edit brush, thats getting me.

Having read all I can I understand they provide controls on how the brush colour is permitted to change when in use. But things don't seem consistent.

Question: are they relevant at the brush creation stage or the brush application stage? By that I mean, would you set them at the time you create the brush, or at the time when you actaully apply the brush stroke to a path in your real drawing?

Or are they very dependant on what type of colurs you use in the creation of your brush, like local vs named colours?

I ask because they seem to change, and I can't get them to work the way I (misguidedly) think they ought to. EG I draw a line, set a certain brush onto it, nip into Edit, set No brush colours (believing that this will prevent the brush colour from being changed), Save the change, right click on colourbar, and lo the brush stroke changes colour.

When I set them at the creation stage they seem to change of their own free will, at the time of use.

I am sure this is a wonderful little feature that I may find a use for, but at the moment its a road block in my learning curve.

Anyway I think (hope) this may be quite simple, but at the moment its me that feels quite simple, but as someone said in a post I read the other day, you get a block on the most simple of things that seem so daft when explained.

Apologies to anyone who thinks they've seen this text before, I originally posted it on the end of an earlier thread, and everybody ignored it, so I thought it ought to get its own thread. So there!

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[Egg Bramhill]

..But see the attachment. I think the first point is that the colours, ie local or named have to be set prior to the brush being created. The "no colours" option is a bit of a mysetry as you don't seem able to select it! Hope this helps
Egg

[Egg Bramhill]

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[Soquili]

Hi Egg,

I used the ellipse tool and drew two circles.
The first circle was filled using the Colour Bar, and the second was filled using the Colour Editor. I slid the cross hair to a matching color to the first circle, then clicked the Tag icon and entered a name. Then I marquee selected both circles and selected the Freehand & Brush tool then clicked create brush.

I'm using v1.0c CD. I've tried on three different PCs. Two are running Windows 98 and one has Windows ME. Same results on all three PCs.

Soquili [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

[AjIsCoool]

Hi Egg, i don't if this subject is discussed before or not, but i will bring it up again [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
How do you name a color and it is shade then apply the color change just like your train and BigFrank Van pictures.
Egg Show me the way [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

[ajreed]

I'm playing, and learning, and hitting silly little mental blockages .....

My current fly-in-the-ointment is those 'All...' 'No...' 'Name brush colour' options in the Fill Properties tab under Edit brush, thats getting me.

Having read all I can I understand they provide controls on how the brush colour is permitted to change when in use. But things don't seem consistent.

Question: are they relevant at the brush creation stage or the brush application stage? By that I mean, would you set them at the time you create the brush, or at the time when you actaully apply the brush stroke to a path in your real drawing?

Or are they very dependant on what type of colurs you use in the creation of your brush, like local vs named colours?

I ask because they seem to change, and I can't get them to work the way I (misguidedly) think they ought to. EG I draw a line, set a certain brush onto it, nip into Edit, set No brush colours (believing that this will prevent the brush colour from being changed), Save the change, right click on colourbar, and lo the brush stroke changes colour.

When I set them at the creation stage they seem to change of their own free will, at the time of use.

I am sure this is a wonderful little feature that I may find a use for, but at the moment its a road block in my learning curve.

Anyway I think (hope) this may be quite simple, but at the moment its me that feels quite simple, but as someone said in a post I read the other day, you get a block on the most simple of things that seem so daft when explained.

Apologies to anyone who thinks they've seen this text before, I originally posted it on the end of an earlier thread, and everybody ignored it, so I thought it ought to get its own thread. So there!

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[ajreed]

Good to see someone of your experience making the opening comment you did.

Not as clear an explanation as I had hoped for, but if I read between the lines I get the impression this is not a particularly useful feature and probably covers some obscure event that the designer personally thought worth including.

I see from what you said it appears to be a way of controlling how the 'colours you used' in the original brush design are open to modification once the brush has been applied. Maybe one day I might be clever enough to want to use named and local colours, but for the moment I really don't think I care. I just want the right colour in my designs, if its local/named so what. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

Maybe someone from Xara may have more precise comments to make, the absence of which will confirm my suspicions.

Thanks anyway, I think I'll put that to rest and move on to more interesting things, like learning how to draw. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

[ajreed]

Hi Egg,

Thanks for taking the trouble to detail making named colours for someone else, I just followed your little tut and it works a treat. Quite impressive actually, except that I had to create the shade of before actually altering it to be a shade. Changing the colour before hitting the name tag put the colour back to base when you did, but other than that it worked as expected.

Then when I change base - WOW! Can't think of a use for it at the moment but will have another play, and store it away for the future. May also have another play using named colours in brush design and see of this sheds any more light on my original question.

Thanks.

PS - Soquili - I am also using v1.0c from the CD.

[Egg Bramhill]

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[Soquili]

Hi Egg,

I've tried to duplicate the effects you have in the attachment. When I have "Named Colours" selected, even the local colour objects change. The same happens when I have "Local Colours" selected. The only setting that doesn't allow colours to change is the "No Colours" option, then nothing will change. I've tried every option I can think of, but it's either all or nothing.

Soquili [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]