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[Michael]

One reason more to stick to v19...

(others: the non-skinned UI works, no need for internet connection, and more ..)

[Acorn]

One reason more to stick to v19...
(others: the non-skinned UI works, no need for internet connection, and more ..)

Michael, we have previously discussed the merits. or opposite, of a Subscription product but to damn v20 Perpetual as well for a small Bugis nugatory.

@handrawn's observation is more relevant: will Xara fix the Bugs in v20 Perpetual in the same timeframe when it fixes them for the Plus products?
If so, you will have all the existing capabilities of v19 and gain bug fixes, access to an off-line 'Content Catalogue' and actual Help & Support, direct from Xara with no Magix involvement.
I doubt the light skin actually works in all circumstances; @handrawn has covered this before and when I tried the Button Palette was unusable for me.

For this Bug, the workaround for those in need is Group, promote or demote in the stack and Ungroup.

Acorn

[Boy]

....nugatory.

I learned a new and wonderful word!

Merriam-Webster: It comes from the Latin adjective nugatorius, which can mean not only “trifling” or “frivolous” but also "futile.”

[MB365]

Issue captured: Currently scheduled (not confirmed yet) for 23.6 release in Plus editions.

Workaround: Group objects, arrange up or down, and then Ungroup as needed.

[handrawn]

Hi Matt - will the perpetual version get bug fixes ?

as far as this bug goes, I looked at it with two and then three objects selected, it appears to toggle - if so then a possible quicker way to work round is to just repeate the operation so that it then toggles back again to the required stack order eg:

ctl+B ctrl+F ctrl+B instead of just ctrl+B

this avoids grouping which can add complication

[Acorn]

ctl+B ctrl+F ctrl+B instead of just ctrl+B

handrawn, I had thought of and tried that but you need to keep an eye on the direction of required travel so the cadence would be either Up-Down-Up or Down-Up-Down.
Group-Action-Ungroup has no consequences if all the selection is on the same Layer, which is implicit in this activity. To avoid any such cross-layer conflict, you could also go Solo mode.
[Grouping flattens the grouped items into the topmost item's Layer]

@Matt, by not mentioning a bug release for v20 Perpetual, you appear to be disenfranchising many. Why buy something that requires you to buy an upgrade a year on?

Acorn

[handrawn]

handrawn, I had thought of and tried that but you need to keep an eye on the direction of required travel so the cadence would be either Up-Down-Up or Down-Up-Down.
Group-Action-Ungroup has no consequences if all the selection is on the same Layer, which is implicit in this activity. To avoid any such cross-layer conflict, you could also go Solo mode.
[Grouping flattens the grouped items into the topmost item's Layer]

agreed...

... and I have just noticed strange things happening in my test file with shift+ctrl+B where it goes to the stack bottom rather than where it should be

@Matt, by not mentioning a bug release for v20 Perpetual, you appear to be disenfranchising many. Why buy something that requires you to buy an upgrade a year on?

Acorn

I hope this is just symptomatic of there not yet being a pipeline for XDA Perpetual bug fixes, and that one is imminent; otherwise we have not really advanced that much from the bad old days have we....