I thought flash died

[TwoEdgedSword]

Flash was ditched because it had become a security risk.
HTML5 is/was supposed to take care of the need for flash.

I'm still waiting for everything to be sorted.

[pauland]

Flash was ditched because it had become a security risk.

Well, for a ditched product, it's still alive and freely available.

HTML5 is/was supposed to take care of the need for flash.

It doesn't come close to the capabilities of flash.

I'm still waiting for everything to be sorted.

That is a lifelong wait.

[handrawn]

guys guys...... lets get real..

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/...-flash-gordon/

[TwoEdgedSword]

Well, for a ditched product, it's still alive and freely available.

It doesn't come close to the capabilities of flash.

That is a lifelong wait.

So are Atari and Commodore 64 games.
HTML5 is still being defined.
Perhaps you don't plan on living much longer.

In many ways HTML5 is better.
Flash is still a security problem.
Use at your own risk, ymmv.

I liked flash quite a bit.
Was sorry to see it go.

[pauland]

So are Atari and Commodore 64 games.

?

HTML5 is still being defined.

Yes, it's only been a few years now..

Perhaps you don't plan on living much longer.

Not exactly my plan, but maybe you have some insight with the grim reaper.

In many ways HTML5 is better.

Yes, but in many ways it's totally inferior to Flash.

Flash is still a security problem.

And we can all be glad that everything else is super secure. I don't think.

Use at your own risk, ymmv.

I don't really because the demise of Flash as a browser renderer (which is what it is) is more about software politics than technical issues and Flash was dead when Jobs protected the appstore from the sophisticated applications that Flash was capable of.

I liked flash quite a bit.

Me too.

Was sorry to see it go.

It's not quite dead yet. It's still used for cross-platform development building app for IOS, Android, PC and Mac. I have developed a few apps on IOS and Android. I have a few bespoke flash-based game apps running in specialist venues with large projection screens ( think in tens of feet ), controlled by touch.

I'm not championing Flash but I don't like it being kicked even if it's down.

I have a feeling I haven't yet made my last Flash app..

[Egg Bramhill]

I like your reply Paul

[handrawn]

And we can all be glad that everything else is super secure. I don't think.

you can say that again...

I don't really because the demise of Flash as a browser renderer (which is what it is) is more about software politics than technical issues and Flash was dead when Jobs protected the appstore from the sophisticated applications that Flash was capable of.

apple did a similar thing to wnidows users when it pulled supprt for windows quicktime - I have to have quicktime installed if I want ToonBoom to import/export, render on the hoof in an unrestricted manner, but I would rather not....

[handrawn]

... just catching up on the US Supreme Court ruling upholding the decision that consumers can sue Apple if they think they have been overcharged in the app store as a result of 'sqeezing out' competition...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...es-us-supreme/

[pauland]

... just catching up on the US Supreme Court ruling upholding the decision that consumers can sue Apple if they think they have been overcharged in the app store as a result of 'sqeezing out' competition...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...es-us-supreme/

I think the mega bucks come from console games. We buy quite a lot of apps (games mostly) and generally they are pretty cheap. Incredibly cheap in comparison with any console.

Apple isn't much of a software producer so the real problem is the royalties that developers pay - I think it's about 30%. No wonder Jobs wouldn't let Flash anywhere near the IOS platform!