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  1. #11
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    Okay, okay--

    There's a limit to the universe of things you can do without retouching after rendering.

    But this one here doesn't need retouching.


    Is that the point?

    BTW, this was done entirely on a Macintosh using PIXAR software.


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    Jens, splendid design - as always!

    Glad to see you are still around, after you threatened to leave us over Webstyle!


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    Gary,

    well, I don't know if this is the point. I never retouch any 3D image. I only use a picture publishing software to scale or crop a picture from time to time. Your picture is fantastic, however, I'd say the grapes are a bit too purple ;-}

    Klaus,

    I left the XARA X - there are too many Mr. Cool's in there. From time to time I will check the X gallery, that's it. Now I'm learning the C4D XL v7.1. Lot's of new features, and since 3D gives me more support for my product designs, I guess I will stay away from the X forums for a while. I have so many ideas I want to turn into reality... there is hardly any time left for me to churn out illustrations at this very moment (yup, of course I have kind of a job as a sideline to finance my ideas: you know I'm coding a lot just to survive though I really HATE coding. On the other hand it's well paid ;-} )

    Guess what's in the pipeline: accessories for the breakfast and dinner table. A totally new product line. I'll post some of them right here, but I can't tell you when because I've just discovered a bug in C4D that forces me to model my ideas in Rhino again <sigh>

    jens

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    Jens,

    What bug did you find in C4D? I have V7.1 also and still find my self going back to Rhino to model some things.

    --Randy

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    Jens--

    You folks have impressed upon me to only goof with a rendering if it needs it; you can say, and with rightful pride, that you don't retouch. And I know I tend to swing the other way...I routinely retouch as a matter of getting something done quickly.

    Here's another model I created. This time, as opposed to the fruit picture, the rendering was done in trueSpace. I like to see how PIXAR's RenderMan stacks up, reality-wise, with other rendering engines.

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    Gary David Bouton
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    Randy,

    if you model an object with FFD, deformers and convert it into a polygon mesh, add a boole and subtract i.e. a cylinder, some polys appear to be slightly tilted off the normal direction. I'm still experimenting, so it's too early to say if I will find a solution or not.

    Gary,

    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I routinely retouch as a matter of getting something done quickly. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I don't mind, because what counts is the result. However, for me it's easier and faster to modify the objects and their textures - don't ask me why, it's just the way it is ;-}

    The rendering is great - the floating phone and cord and the floating line cord are great. Just the phone with the cradly looks a bit blocky, but I have to confess that I don't know anything of the old US phones...

    jens

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    http://jens.highspeedweb.net
    --------------------//--
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    Jens--

    The telephone I modeled is from like 1960 or so, and yes, American telephones looked blocky and un-sleek.

    Of course, today, a telephone can look like anything!

    Yikes! I'm writing this message on a [b]telephone[/i]!!!


    My Best,

    Gary David Bouton
    Gary@GaryDavidBouton.com
    Free education! The Writings Web site
    and the updated GaryWorld Gallery is pretty okay, too.
    Gary David Bouton
    Gary@GaryDavidBouton.com
    Free education! The Writings Web site
    and the updated GaryWorld Gallery is pretty okay, too.

 

 

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