Xara webspace/html files

[Emmo]

I only have 44mb left of the 500mb allocated by Xara for my website. Try as I might I cannot find a reference to where to buy more from them.
Are there companies that offer webspace that can be used by Xara generated website? I don't make money out of the website and I am retired so cost is important.
I noticed that there are a lot of obsolete files in my html_files folder. Would it make any sense to delete or rename it so that Xara can generated another?
Xara Designer Pro X 17. I have not subscribed since it was installed. Windows 10.

[MB365]

I only have 44mb left of the 500mb allocated by Xara for my website. Try as I might I cannot find a reference to where to buy more from them.
Are there companies that offer webspace that can be used by Xara generated website? I don't make money out of the website and I am retired so cost is important.
I noticed that there are a lot of obsolete files in my html_files folder. Would it make any sense to delete or rename it so that Xara can generated another?
Xara Designer Pro X 17. I have not subscribed since it was installed. Windows 10.

www.xara-online.com is the website to access, manage, and upgrade your hosting.

[Acorn]

Emmo, Matt's detail is good but first focus on the "access, manage" part.
Few Xara designs are ever going to hit 400MB of web space, unless you are host your own MP4 or large number of images.

If you open you design and Export Website to a local folder, this will allow you to check the size of your website.
Do the obsolete file appear in the index_html_files folder? If so, you probably have to find the associated <design file>_Xar_files folder adjacent to your design file and purge them from that.

You then try another Export Website and if it has lost the obsolete files, you can Publish Website and Xara will recover web space automatically.

Failing all that and you know the obsolete files are not being republished, you can manually delete them from your web space.

A link to your site will help us.

You can get free hosting and in cases a free domain name.
Otherwise you can shop around for a cheap hosting provider that would cost less than a shop-bought coffee per month.

Acorn

[Emmo]

www.xara-online.com is the website to access, manage, and upgrade your hosting.

www.xara-online.com does not appear to lead to a page that offers more webspace for an already created website(s). The Xara Cloud link http://www.cloud.ixara.com/ leads to a 403 ERROR.

I have 21 web sites in total. The largest appears to be here http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/orientdia...entdiary-a.htm at 66,078kb. Large number of images are the problem I suspect.

The index_htm_files folder has 842 items but 115 are older than November last year.

Google did offer webspace but appear no longer to do so and suggest Squarespace. Their domain names start at £9.60pa but no mention of how much space you get. Ionos start at a £1 for the first year then £15pa but no mention of space.

I am assuming that using Xara would not be a problem.

[Acorn]

Keith, your link is a website of 7 pages and around 460 images. Overall about 2MB a page. for page orient-diary-a, it renders to 2.6MB, nowhere near the 66MB you mention.
Are you storing your XAR file in the same webspace?

It was last updated in May. Just because files have an earlier November timestamp does not mean they are obsolete; if they have not changed since last published, you are not refreshed.
This page was actually published on 24 March 2022.

Xara sites can be transferred and hosted on almost anything.

A domain name does not buy you webspace, that is a separate contract.

Acorn

[Emmo]

I think the problem may be that I have had to split websites in the past which is probably why that one shows seven pages but I reduced it to four putting the other three on another website. What I don't understand is that my files show the four pages c, d, e, f but the Control Center shows folders for a, c, g and htm files of a, b, c, e, d, f. Seems that splitting the website has (obviously?) retained the old files as well. I could delete all the files in the Control Center for that website and then export them back.

I am not going to pretend to understand what appears in the Control Center. Looking at this website which has two pages http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2023blog/2023blog2.htm I would have expected to see htm_files folders for two pages but there is only one but two htm files. Am I to assume the htm_files folder has the files for two pages?

Could I do that with the index_htm_files folder (which is from another website) i.e. delete or rename it and then export it again?
No I'm not storing the XAR file on my webspace.
Maybe optimising all photos may be the way to go should I ever get near the 500mb.
Thanks

[Acorn]

Keith, when you publish a site with n pages, you will get n html files and one _xar_files folder. The html files are your content and the folder are the assets that support their presentation.
Your issue is, unfortunately, much deeper.

At some point you probably decided to make an on-line backup. You now have a clutch of published websites with some with a sub-folder created with just a space (%20).

I have not dug out all the htm files but this gives you an idea of the duplication;

http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2010blog/index.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2010blog/index2.htm


http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2011blog/%20/index.htm
As well as:
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2011blog/index.htm


http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2012blog/%20/index.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2012blog/%20/index_2.htm


As well as:
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2012blog/index.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2012blog/index_2.htm


http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2013blog/index.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2013blog/2013blog2.htm
As well as:
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2013blog/%20/index.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2013blog/%20/2013blog2.htm
...
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2014blog/index.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2015blog/index.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2016blog/index.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2017blog/index.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2018blog/2018blog.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2019blog/2019blog.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2020blog/2020blog.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2021blog/2021blog.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2022blog/2022blog.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2022blog/2022blog2_1.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/orientdiary/orientdiary.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/orientdiary/orientdiary2.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/orientdia...entdiary-d.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/orientdia...entdiary-a.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/orientdia...entdiary-b.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/orientdia...tdiary-2b1.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/orientdia...tdiary-2b2.htm
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/orientdia...tdiary-2c1.htm

I've found your site and page naming convention rather odd.

The safest approach is to open all the design files that you believe are the current ones and set up a local file structure that will be reflected in your publish webspace:

..blog/2010/ - call the design file 2010 Blog.xar with first page index, second - index-a, third - index-b, ...
..blog/2011/
..blog/2012/
..blog/2013/
..blog/2014/
..blog/2015/
..blog/2016/
..blog/2017/
..blog/2018/
..blog/2019/
..blog/2020/
..blog/2021/
..blog/2022/
..blog/2023/
..blog/2024/ - call the design file 2024 Blog.xar with first page index, second - index-a, third - index-b, ...

and
..orientdiary/part1/ - call the design file Orient Diary - Part 1.xar with first page index, second - index-a, third - index-b, ...
..orientdiary/part2/
..orientdiary/part3/
..orientdiary/part4/ - call the design file Orient Diary - Part 4.xar with first page index, second - index-a, third - index-b, ...

Acorn

[Emmo]

Thanks Acorn for you exhaustive research.
I am not aware of making an on-line backup. But computers and phones appear to have minds of their own. Twice now my wife's phone has turned on Talkback without her knowingly doing anything yet should she want it there are four "buttons" she would have to press.

I think the renaming problem is that I just used whatever Xara suggested for the site rather than index. Other pages were not renamed when the files were split.

Once those files are on the web I don't know how they can be removed.
http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2011blog/%20/index.htm does not appear in the Control Center so I cannot delete it. It does not appear in my Designer files either. What I may try is deleting all files in Control Center for that site and exporting them back to see if the file disappears.

Publish Website appears to copy all files overwriting the same named files and leaving others alone. Much like copying files to an existing folder except there old files are ignored and updated files are queried.

I will take on board the naming of files. I can see that renaming them all would be a bit of task with one website linking to the next one and the past one. Plus all my bookmarks and everybody else's would be obsolete. Over 48 pages would need renaming with two links on each website changed. Not to mention all the links to all the different years on the blog sites. Trouble is that all sites are prone to updates. Pictures are constantly being found and added.

Again many thanks, I will let you know how the deleting/re publishing goes.
Keith

[Acorn]

Keith, in the Control Centre, you need to navigate to the folder http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2011blog/ /. It may appear as http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2011blog/%20/.
That is where the duplicated files are sitting.

Acorn

[Emmo]

I have accessed the Control Center for that file but there is only one htm file. I have deleted both http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2010blog/index-a.htm and http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2011blog/ files from the Control Centre and published them back but memory remains at 458mb.
The 2011 blog still has two files http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2011blog/index.htm and http://lc4mkm.xara.hosting/2011blog/ Mystery how to remove a file I cannot find despite deleting the folder it should be in.