nwe rotation in pro+

[handrawn]

I am in the selector tool

I create a quickshape I click on the selector tool infor bar button - set origin position - and I get a rotation point that I can move so that the quickshape rotates around this

the position of the rotation point persists, which is how I understood it would work, and is good.... a make more quicjkshapes, they rotate around the rotation point as set

but this operation does not work for me with a bitmap - it will not rotate around the point so set, it just rotates around it's own centre; and I cannot get a rotation point to apperar on a bitmap when resetting with the infobar button

[handrawn]

ok cracked it, I think

the bitmap will only so rotate if you use the info bar to do the rotation - it will not rotate around the rotation centre point using it's handle, unlike the quickshapes, and unlike the previous versions

from my point of view that is a loss of functionality, my bitmaps are mostly drawing elements, not photos

I can get round it up to a point by grouping with a shape and releasing when done - but that is tiresome and clumsy

[Acorn]

ok cracked it, I think
the bitmap will only so rotate if you use the info bar to do the rotation - it will not rotate around the rotation centre point using it's handle, unlike the quickshapes, and unlike the previous versions
from my point of view that is a loss of functionality, my bitmaps are mostly drawing elements, not photos
I can get round it up to a point by grouping with a shape and releasing when done - but that is tiresome and clumsy

handrawn, the rotation "handles" are actually there; move the pointer around the corners and the pointer chages. It is subtle and Xara has a knack of hiding thing, badly.

Acorn

[handrawn]

ok thanks i will look into that

[handrawn]

so...

square is bitmap - polygon is vector

select vector and click on show rotation centre - rotation centre appears



do the same for bitmap - no rotation centre



show rotation point on vector and move it
vector will rotate about this point - as will any new vectors created



but select the bitmap and the rotation centre disappears and the bitmap will only rotate around it’s own centre



if I select both bitmap and vector- or if I group bitmap with vector - rotation centre will show and it will work for both - it will not work for the bitmap alone
so I cannot drag-rotate a stand-alone bitmap around an offset control cenre, which I could in previous versions

I can rotate a stand alone bitmap around the rotation cenre using the infobar, the rotation centre does not show but it is repected - however I need to be able to drag-rotate stand-alone bitmaps
so this is not the overall improvement I was hoping for, it will greatly impede the workflow

... or am I still doing something wrong?

... are there more than one set of rotation handles on the bitmap ?

Xara Designer Pro+ 20.5.0.60603 SL x64 Nov 10 2020

thanks for your help

[handrawn]

ok forget all that

it's the show selection bounds handles that is the issue - clue in your screen shot

a big relief to me... thanks again for your help

[Acorn]

ok forget all that
it's the show selection bounds handles that is the issue - clue in your screen shot
a big relief to me... thanks again for your help

Hurrah!

Me too.

Acorn

[Acorn]

Happy with first image.
Second image seems to show the controls for a picture.
I can use the select Tool and then click the Show rotation centre icon for the CoR to appear.
I can move it anywhere.

I just click on and click off and on again and the CoR is centred to the shape or group.
Selecting just one shape and the CoR remains in place.

There is the one visible helium balloon on a string control for both shapes and images to click and move to rotate about the centre.
The hidden others appear on a close hover to the corner controls.

If it is not working as I describe then try a Run as administrator the once.

Thanks for the effort to capture what you are experiencing.

I am using the same version.

Acorn