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  1. #1
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    Default Re: Any compelling reason to keep renewing Pro X annual licence??

    its petty

    but it helps their cash flow

    go figure
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    Default Re: Any compelling reason to keep renewing Pro X annual licence??

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    its petty
    but it helps their cash flow
    go figure
    I try to. My "ensure" was a typo for "enthuse". Chasing new customers and no looking towards retention is folly.

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat

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    Default Re: Any compelling reason to keep renewing Pro X annual licence??

    i think i understood that

    i am lucky i have no golden handcuffs
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    Default Re: Any compelling reason to keep renewing Pro X annual licence??

    I have bought a new license every year so far.
    In Xara's belief, one day we will really revolutionize the way we create new drawing tools.
    So far unfortunately only warm wind.

    The other way round, I see it this way, since using Xara and seriously using it for my graphic work, I have always recovered the cost of renewal several times.

    Xara Designer has become a tool that I use every day. It is flexible and performs tasks quickly and reliably. Perfect for me.
    Whether it's images, web or complex vector graphics - with Xara I can do it all.

    Everything positive so far, but what happened in the last 2 years is not good for me either. I will continue to pursue Xara and support it if necessary.
    But all just to the point where the competition has caught up and Xara brings nothing new to distinguish herself from the competition.

    All a happy new year!

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    Default Re: Any compelling reason to keep renewing Pro X annual licence??

    Tech support came back. The answer is 'no' - I must have an ongoing support arrangement to get updates I'VE ALREADY PAID FOR. Well that's my the last of my money Magix will be getting.
    Grant

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    Default Re: Any compelling reason to keep renewing Pro X annual licence??

    if you want the legal position: you pay for the right to use only, not to own

    this has always been the case even before the subscription model, what you got then was the right to use the program without a time limt, but you never got to own the program/updates themselves [ie the code]

    same now, except that with the subscription model some parts of the access are time limited

    this is all stated in the 'terms and conditions' [EULA] - it catches out a lot of people who don't read and understand them

    this is not to defend Xara/magix, personally I think it is a rip off, it's just to say that cavet emptor applies and everyone shouild read them and understand what it is they are actually buying
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    Default Re: Any compelling reason to keep renewing Pro X annual licence??

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    if you want the legal position: you pay for the right to use only, not to own
    this has always been the case even before the subscription model, what you got then was the right to use the program without a time limt, but you never got to own the program/updates themselves [ie the code]
    same now, except that with the subscription model some parts of the access are time limited
    this is all stated in the 'terms and conditions' [EULA] - it catches out a lot of people who don't read and understand them
    this is not to defend Xara/magix, personally I think it is a rip off, it's just to say that cavet emptor applies and everyone shouild read them and understand what it is they are actually buying
    Towards finding the EULA, how many know where it is?

    Read https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...?82634-Licence #1 & #10 to ge a readble (not necessarily understandable) RTF version working.
    Xara has not exactly rushed to fix this defect.

    Happy reading.

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat

 

 

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