Damn... I always liked the look and feel of Modo, just the thing always crashed... think it was around 501... I wonder about that, because perhaps it was just the machine... AI not clicking in quick enough? I remember getting this I5 machine about 8 years ago, and it was rocky for the first bit, fast but rocky... Mixcraft , our prefered music daw, as well others, particularly music maker, used to crash all the time, now the machine is rock solid... both apps, in fact all apps now work flawlessly... I remember when you started with Modo... I was so intrigued... but the damn thing kept crashing lol... perhaps it is time to revisit this Modo app. So, I suppose the question here is... Is modo stable Mike? Was it just the machine, or did you experience crashes as well, and then they fixed stuff and made it right?