v15 - what's happened to "position on page"?

**letsgofishing** · 21 February 2018, 04:28 AM

v12 - right click an object - flyout menu had "position on page" - what the 5$&T happened to it in v15?
Did a search under the Help - nothing - not impressed with this "new" version

The "old" picture handles - grab a corner and drag to enlarge with "snap to objects" on and it would snap to say the bottom of a picture alongside.
With the "new" fancy handles, dragging a pic by the bottom RH corner, it doesn't snap to pic alongside!!
Xara, why change things that worked perfectly well before and make it more difficult for the user???

**Acorn** · 21 February 2018, 07:38 AM

Right-click and pick Auto-fit to page.
Check the What's New documentation for the details.

In Premium, I believe you just change back to the Select tool.

Acorn

**letsgofishing** · 22 February 2018, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by Acorn

Right-click and pick Auto-fit to page.
Check the What's New documentation for the details.

In Premium, I believe you just change back to the Select tool.

Acorn

I was talking about in v12 select object/right click/position on page/fixed/footer/automatic/stretch with page/push..
don't see what this has to do with auoto fit to page in v15....

I am using the select tool - not the photo tool....v15P

**letsgofishing** · 24 February 2018, 03:16 AM

"I was talking about in v12 select object/right click/position on page/fixed/footer/automatic/stretch with page/push..
don't see what this has to do with auoto fit to page in v15....

I am using the select tool - not the photo tool....v15P"

Anyone? Searched for "position on page" under Help - nothing!
How do I now make a line of text for example, stay as a footer?

Any help with the photo tool?

**handrawn** · 24 February 2018, 09:56 AM

following on from what acorn said... as I understand it, 'position on page' function is now part of the 'auto-fit' function - you don't need to apply auto-fit to your document, but you do need to go to that function now to do the manual positoning

the documentation is here:

http://releasenotes.xara.hosting/auto-fit/

once you reach page 8 you should start to find what you need I think

**handrawn** · 24 February 2018, 10:25 AM

in the selecctor tool look on the infobar at far left you should see the 'show selection bounds handles' button - click on this to change from the new to the old handles and you should now be able to snap as before

edit - this is only available in selector tool, it does not change handles in photo tool

**letsgofishing** · 25 February 2018, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by handrawn

following on from what acorn said... as I understand it, 'position on page' function is now part of the 'auto-fit' function - you don't need to apply auto-fit to your document, but you do need to go to that function now to do the manual positoning

the documentation is here:

http://releasenotes.xara.hosting/auto-fit/

once you reach page 8 you should start to find what you need I think

Many thanks Handrawn - what a mission - why have Xara made something that was simple so involved? - they could have kept the "position on page" as a sub-section of the new auto-fit .option....

**letsgofishing** · 25 February 2018, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by handrawn

in the selecctor tool look on the infobar at far left you should see the 'show selection bounds handles' button - click on this to change from the new to the old handles and you should now be able to snap as before

edit - this is only available in selector tool, it does not change handles in photo tool

Thanks for the info...and that was exactly what I didn't want - I wanted the "old" simple photo handles back

**handrawn** · 25 February 2018, 10:39 AM

The program evolves... it can be a pain to those whose workflow it interupts

the auto-fit will no doubt be useful to many and is apparently a lot more comprehensive than before.. I am inclined to think the 'slots' for the right-click menu are limited; plus if you keep everything that is legacy sooner or later you end up with a UI so complicated it is a nightmare to navigate...

I remember 10 years or so ago changes in the way fills worked meant I needed to make far more bitmap copies in order to fix the image before applying live effects [otherwise the live effect would be applied to, for example, a clipped image in it's unclipped state ] I got used to this after a while - I now do it in another program

version 15 is not only not attractive to me, it is a warning of what is to come and I don't think I want to go there myself

Don't know of any way of getting the old handles back in the photo tool - I dislike them, too easy to accidently do something unintentionally...

**letsgofishing** · 27 February 2018, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by handrawn

The program evolves... it can be a pain to those whose workflow it interupts

the auto-fit will no doubt be useful to many and is apparently a lot more comprehensive than before.. I am inclined to think the 'slots' for the right-click menu are limited; plus if you keep everything that is legacy sooner or later you end up with a UI so complicated it is a nightmare to navigate...

I remember 10 years or so ago changes in the way fills worked meant I needed to make far more bitmap copies in order to fix the image before applying live effects [otherwise the live effect would be applied to, for example, a clipped image in it's unclipped state ] I got used to this after a while - I now do it in another program

version 15 is not only not attractive to me, it is a warning of what is to come and I don't think I want to go there myself

Don't know of any way of getting the old handles back in the photo tool - I dislike them, too easy to accidently do something unintentionally...

Thanks for your opinions Handrawn - agreed