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    Default Re: First-Ever Organzied Chaotic Free-For-All Competition/Collaboration

    Quote Originally Posted by Gare View Post
    A Mobius strip is impossible in 3 dimensions
    Also consider the Klein bottle, a physically impossible vessel in our 4D space—height, width, depth, and time
    Gare, a Möbius strip is possible in 3D, perhaps you meant 2D?
    Our 4D is 3D+time: space-time. Mathematical 4D is different, and in that, a Klein bottle comfortably sits.

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    I'v always wanted a Koch Snowflake, but ever time i print one and try to cut it out christmas has passed.
    The perimeter is infinite, the area is finite.

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    Default Re: First-Ever Organzied Chaotic Free-For-All Competition/Collaboration

    Quote Originally Posted by Acorn View Post
    Gare, a Möbius strip is possible in 3D, perhaps you meant 2D?
    Our 4D is 3D+time: space-time. Mathematical 4D is different, and in that, a Klein bottle comfortably sits.

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    I'v always wanted a Koch Snowflake, but ever time i print one and try to cut it out christmas has passed.
    The perimeter is infinite, the area is finite.

    Acorn
    Acorn, you're infinitely more intelligent than I am when it comes to those things Quantum in Mechanics!

    I'm very glad you chose a fractal for an expression of Infinity, because fractals can indefinitely recurse. Some have terms, but mostly they done (he says in math terms Gary doesn't quite understand).

    Now, the Art side of this assignment? Is pale blue your best impression of the Infinite? How about the cropping or even multiple universes here? Do you want to add drama (why not?) to crop away some of the flake so it's not possible for mortals to view the whole of it (hint: you might).

    I think you're good, acorn.

    But I don't think you're done with this.

    Mmmm?

    Thanks for coming to play, man.

    Gary

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    while i'm still trying to come up with something specifically for this challenge, i had a little bit of free time today and played with a mobius/penrose triangle from a bigger project that i played with a few months ago.
    trying not to take the challenge too literally and obvious is tough (at least for me)


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    Default Re: First-Ever Organzied Chaotic Free-For-All Competition/Collaboration

    Hi Gare,
    So far I haven't come up with anything unique to illustrate the concept of infinity that hasn't already been done...ad finitum through symbols. There's a great deal of speculation involved, or faith, or whatever you'd like to consider, in the idea of infinity and/or eternity. Is it real or is it Memorex? Is it something measurable/testable? Is it just a thought? If you believe in eternity and the infinite then what does it look like? What does it feel like?

    Or...is it as one philosopher stated, " You may think about it, but you will never realize it". I need a great deal more time to consider the possibilities....for the possibilities are endless, but not the probabilities (for me at least).
    "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do, so throw off the bowlines, sail away from safe harbor, catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore, Dream, Discover."
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    Default Re: First-Ever Organzied Chaotic Free-For-All Competition/Collaboration

    'Infinity' and 'Eternity' are both concepts.
    One is predominantly used in Mathematics and Physics, and the other is predominantly used in Religion.

    Mikey's impossible triangle (beautifully animated) is shown that it goes on for ever into the distance - infinity.
    If TalkGraphics, as a forum stays for ever, and no-one removes Mikey's drawing - eternity.

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    Gare. For me infinity is synonymous with eternity. Without measure of time. To me, God's love represents that. Eternal love... I'm not trying to preach, but that's what I believe. I think this picture represents that to me. Gare, you also mentioned that You would like to see something with text to path, so I added a second one with more of that style for you. To me, they both represented the same thing. You pick which one works best for you. Note, I'm not trying to push anything on anyone. This is what moves me.
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    Default Re: First-Ever Organzied Chaotic Free-For-All Competition/Collaboration

    Quote Originally Posted by Psaumure View Post
    Gare. For me infinity is synonymous with eternity. Without measure of time. To me, God's love represents that. Eternal love... I'm not trying to preach, but that's what I believe. I think this picture represents that to me. Gare, you also mentioned that You would like to see something with text to path, so I added a second one with more of that style for you. To me, they both represented the same thing. You pick which one works best for you. Note, I'm not trying to push anything on anyone. This is what moves me.
    I like the elegant quality of the Love.jpg poster, Mikey.

    I understand the reason for several of the posts reaching a non-secular state, and honesty, when the idea of drawing or otherwise expressing Infinity struck me, I didn't realize that so many people feel that Eternity and Infinity are synonymous.

    I am here on the forum as Art Guide, and sadly I do not find myself qualified to be a spirit Guide (!), so I encourage the "all encompassing approach" to this never-ending challenge, okay? I think Eternity can fit inside Infinity with an Infinite amount of room to spare, how about that?

    Now that I'm rolling this idea around in my pin head a little more, okay, yes, I can see that religion has as valid and as big a claim on Infinity as scientists, astrologists, and other Deep Gazers.

    Let's continue. I don't think we're done!

    My Best,

    Gary

    (Took Friday off in the Name of Love. Our 22nd anniversary!)

 

 

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