Hi Mike... thanx... CE is C4D v6 CE... it was the freebie given away on 3d world mag #43...

It isn't as nice as v8,5 but now that I have played with it more I am falling in love with it... it plays nicely with the files exported from Wings3d... I have all but thrown away Carrara Studio, and am now really leaning into C4D full time for hypernurbs,texturing and rendering... too funny... took me long enough eh