Xara Xtreme 6

**zaphodeist** · 05 April 2010, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Xcellent

...I think Adobe would have been better off buying Xara than Magix...

But then there wouldn't be a Xara anymore! They'd nick the best bits for their expensive product and scrap the Xara marque. We can't all afford Adobe

EDIT Didn't see your post Bill, glad somebody else shuddered at the thought!

**Xcellent** · 05 April 2010, 11:52 PM

Well maybe some competition is good

No way Adobe would have dumped Xara.

**zaphodeist** · 05 April 2010, 11:54 PM

Let's hope your optimism isn't put to the test

**Soquili** · 05 April 2010, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Xcellent

No way Adobe would have dumped Xara.

Tell that to all the Freehand users.

**Xcellent** · 06 April 2010, 12:17 AM

Never used Freehand. Illustrator replaced Freehand entirely by migrating it's features anyway (from what I understand).

http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/il..._fhillmigr.pdf

If anything, Illustrator features should be migrated into Xara. So Xara, please buy Illustrator

ha ha

OK, enough off topics from me today. hehe..

Xara6: when?

**steve.ledger** · 06 April 2010, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Xcellent

Xara6: when?

Traditionally Xara never make release dates known in advance.
Do keep an eye on each monthly Outsider for hints though

**angelize** · 06 April 2010, 01:18 AM

I just had to put my 2 cents in

John you and Bill weren't the only ones to shudder at the thought of Adobe swallowing up Xara! Very scary thought indeed!

**covoxer** · 06 April 2010, 05:34 AM

Don't worry guys and gals. Xara had made a preventive step to avoid possibility of complete annihilation by the possible purchaser. That's called Xara LX. If Xara would be bought and Xtreme closed as a project by any other company, it would be still possible to continue as most of it's code base is not a property of Xara and the potential new owners. And that's probably why Xara was never bought by Adobe or Corel. They wouldn't do it being unable to eliminate competition this way.

Now the MAGIX is a different story. They purchased Xara not to eliminate the competitor but to gain profits from the Xara products. So it's actually good for Xara as the new owner is interested in the commercial success of the company.

**zumwalt** · 08 April 2010, 02:56 AM

I checked back on my invoices and Pro v.5 was released about 3 months after web designer.

**Albacore** · 08 April 2010, 10:11 AM

Xara has to concentrate on vectors if it wants to be used by professionals, take the example of Illy and that is where the money and the numbers for sales are.
Why is it used by so many print based companies:-
Because it produces a quality PDF,
Consistent colour in both RGB and CMYK.
It has got a good Text engine
Can it be used to produce small brochures - Yes
Has it got enough vector tools - probably too many
Can it integrate with other applications easily - Yes all that you have to do is look at its export list.
Can it be used by many different types of designers easily - yes for web to high end mags including cartoonists.

Where does Xara stand in the market place at the moment? Well it has a niche market for home user that want to use their own printer or even do the occasional bigger jobs. Some might say it is easy to make simple websites with the tools available. Here I would agree at the moment but wait a couple of years and I think that the way CMS is developing then even this will be over taken as it is nearly drag and drop now.

Now you are going to say why is a moderator saying all of these things against Xara and why do you still use Xara. Well I am comfortable with it firstly and it is so easy for people to pick up. Having said all that and after now working with Illy over the last really 8 years I am now just as comfortable with that. I used to use Xara in my day job for laying everything out as I was much quicker than my collogues in my vector work and then bringing it across into Illy for the final part like adjusting the colour and other small jobs. In my current work I produces literature for the NHS from local newsletter to national handouts and info sheets and I find now I am doing more and more with Illy. I am not saying that I still don't use Xara for still some of my work but is is less now than it was.

Now that was a rant and I apologise as this is a request topic for the next version of XPro. What that I want to see is certainly the brushes sorted and a few more usable vector tools so that I will use Xara as my first tool.