Select Under problem

[LonK]

ALERT: Newbie inquiry

Selecting an object under another should be enabled by left-alt, then click (with the select tool). Not here! The cursor flips, but no selection is made -- or if the top object was selected, does NOT select the object beneath.

Any insight?

(I have boxed software, not trial)

[MEB]

Hello Lonnie, welcome to Talkgraphics http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
It should work as you are doing...
Try with another image to check if it works or not. If not it´s maybe an instalation problem?! Something get corrupted.

Miguel B.

[PhilM]

Hi Lonnie,

It does sound as if some other program installed on your machine might be handling the Alt keys in a way that prevents Xara X from dealing with them how it wants.

However, just to get a handle on this problem, can you confirm whether the following sequence works or not:
* New document
* Draw two overlapping ellipses
* Make sure neither is selected
* In the Selector tool position the pointer over the overlapping area of the two ellipses
* Hold down left-Alt key
* Click once (You should see the top ellipse become selected)
* Click again (You should see the bottom ellipse become selected)
* Release the left-Alt key

Sorry if that sounds a bit basic, but I need to eliminate as many variables as possible and know that you're doing exactly what I'm doing.

Thanks,

Phil

[LonK]

John: Yup... typo! Meant 1G. So, you can't drag-move a selected under object either?

PhilM: That's "exactly" what I've tried. Alt-RIGHTclick does cycle through stacked selections. Can't drag-move (Ctrl-Alt drag) though. Alt key does flip cursor though as expected, so it is recognizing the keypress.

[gwpriester]

Are the objects grouped?

If you drag a selection marquee around the objects (using the Selector Tool (the arrow pointer) drag a rectangle around all the objects) what does the message on the status bar say? (The status bar is in the lower left corner of the screen).

Gary

[Sammo]

Hi Lonnie,

If the beneath object is on a non-editable layer, you can see it but not select it. Check the configuration of your Layers Gallery.

-- Sam

[LonK]

Utilities >> Options >> Mouse >> Left Mouse Button IS set for Normal Click. That's one reason I did a clean install. No options have been changed from default.

[MEB]

Hi Lonnie,
As PhilM sugested maybe another program is making some kind of interference with the Xara shortcuts. It already hapened me before.
Try this: Close as much third partie programs runing in background as you can (those runing in the system tray) and anything else you don´t need in the processes tab of the windows task manager (don´t stop system processes, only third partie app). and then try again alt+click +drag in Xara. If it works the problem is with one of those third partie programs that is probably blocking some shortcut keys.

Regards,
Miguel B.

[gwpriester]

You could always use the Tab key to sequence through the objects, but if you have a ton of objects on the page this can get laborious.

Glad to hear you solved the problem.

We can all sleep better now :-)

Gary

[John Rayner]

"1M Ram" - Lonnie

Was this a typo? Do they even make 1meg anymore? I tried you example. Created an elipse, cloned it (control-K), turned the new one red. Selected the red(top) one, then alt-clicked the red one and the black one was selected but I could not drag it...