Resized on export

[Chris_West]

When I export to .AI from Xtreme4Pro and then open my drawing in Illustrator everything comes in smaller than it should. Some things can be up to as much as 150px+ smaller. Is there a setting or some configuration that would keep the sizing correct between these applications? I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction.

This also seems to happen when I export as a .SWF and then import into Flash.

[Egg Bramhill]

Hi Chris, what version of Xara Xtreme are you using? There is a real problem that exists between importing/exporting images/vectors between PC based programs like Xara Xtreme / Paint Shop Pro & Corel Draw to Mac originated programs like Flash, Illustrator and "whatever the other one is" due to Macs origunally using 72 ppi screen resolution and PC's using 96 ppi.

The last to versions of XXP (3.2 & 4.0) automatically compensate for this.

Does this help? If not, get back.

[Chris_West]

Hi Egg,

I am using Xtreme 4 Pro. I am on a PC machine.

When I export to .PSD the graphics come over at the correct sizes. When I export to .AI, .SWF or .PDF I then have to spend extra time getting objects back to the correct size.

I have attached some samples to demonstrate the issue. you will need Illustrator CS3 in order to open the .ai file.

SampleBlock.xar - original
SampleBlock.ai - export from Xtreme
SampleBlock.pdf - export from Xtreme

I would guess this is chewing up roughly 20% of my time each day. That equals about $200 USD for me =/

[raynerj1]

You can always just try scaling the xara output. use 96 and 72 for your values... Try it one way then the other... One will make it even smaller, the other will come across properly. I haven't played with scaling for flash/.ai in a while so I forget which goes where. Maybe egg can remember, he does lots of flash.

[Egg Bramhill]

When I export to .PSD the graphics come over at the correct sizes. When I export to .AI, .SWF or .PDF I then have to spend extra time getting objects back to the correct size.

Hi again Chris. I don't use PSD export so I can't comment. I have Illustrator PS2 so I can't use your file.

Re Johns point above I used to use a xar2swf template that had scaling but since XXP3.2 this hasn't been necessary, the export filter does the scaling automatically.

Could you attach a .xar file and the exported .swf file for comparison?

[alexbozhenov]

Downloaded all files and in all 3 your green rectangle is the same -- 2,083in x 0,521in.

[steve.ledger]

So what does this suggest to you Alex?

[alexbozhenov]

So what does this suggest to you Alex?

Heh, I downloaded .xar again and rectangle is 200 x 50 pix, exported it as AI file and there 150 x 38 pix, and that getting me in a shock ))) Obviously, there is 72/96 dpi problem. While in inches all values are identical )).

I suggest to set measurement units in Xara as POINTS (as far as we know, 1 pt = 1/72 in) -- that mean 1 pt in Xara = 1 pix in AI (AI for PC is always produced from codes for Mac, and 72 dpi at Mac is a standard).

In other words, AI displays at 72 dpi.

I think the more exploration should be made by Xara team. Maybe this issue at their end, I don't know. But it's obvious, that 1 pix in Xara is not the same as 1 pix in AI.

[steve.ledger]

Googling shows it'a a common issues when working between Adobe and other products.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951603


You may also notice that Adobe Reader 8 for Windows also needs setting in the prefs>>page display to scale at 96, otherwise your PDF files will look a little different than in other readers.

[Egg Bramhill]

This also seems to happen when I export as a .SWF and then import into Flash.

I don't get this. Here's a screengrab of the 2 apps side by side. Flash reports the size as 200 x 50 pix the same as XXP. As I said earlier, you used to need to work on a template with scaling. If you're having problems I can create a template which will keep the same dimensions.

I do get it if I open your ai file in Illustrator CS2 however.

EDIT: Here's the link to the scaling template