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  1. #81
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    Default Re: Can I say how much I hate.. ?

    Quote Originally Posted by DukeofThomas View Post
    Should we not discuss the alignment function then?
    Sure. btw: What is your favorite vector graphics editor? Is there a better piece of software than Xara Xtreme out there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by masque View Post
    Tom
    I bet you're mug is never half full is it? Always half empty.
    No program, is perfect of all the 'hundreds' you've used the fact that you're now trying Xara means you're still looking.
    Do a drawing or something and post that; there are plenty of people besides you pointing out areas that need improvement. Perfection is a gradual process.
    Derek
    This is irrelevant to my discussion...
    Saying Xara isn't perfect and all the other programs aren't either is just ridiculous! According to this logic, we should just accept every program as it is. Programs are precisely that - PROGRAMS. They can be CHANGED. They aren't hardware...
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    Default Re: Can I say how much I hate.. ?

    Quote Originally Posted by DukeofThomas View Post
    Yes, I discussed it with my manager. She doesn't know the first thing about computers and is of the opinion that she mustn't upset the company we have paid hundreds of thousands of pounds to, by asking them to change (i.e. improve) the software... Go figure.
    That's what you find a lot in life: most people know nothing about user interface design, especially programmers. Most people learn software and no matter how bad the interface is, they defend it as if it's 'the right way', precisely because it was so HARD for them to learn! It's almost like a religion to people.
    Are you able to develop such kinds of programs? I ask this, because there is a great Open Source development project and they need good developers. It's your chance to code a better solution and nice functions. You'll find the web site of this project here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by remi View Post
    Sure. btw: What is your favorite vector graphics editor? Is there a better piece of software than Xara Xtreme out there?
    Unfortunately not. Does this mean nobody can ask for problems with it to be addressed?
    There are simple problems that can easily be fixed. It's simply a matter of somebody spending a few hours on each part of the interface that needs fixing. It's as simple as changing this:

    Align

    to this:

    Align: left Align: middle Align: right


    etc.etc.
    It's not hard to do.
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    Default Re: Can I say how much I hate.. ?

    Quote Originally Posted by remi View Post
    Are you able to develop such kinds of programs? I ask this, because there is a great Open Source development project and they need good developers. It's your chance to code a better solution and nice functions. You'll find the web site of this project here.
    No, I have no programming experience, but I can certainly recognise a good interface when I see one. User interface is REALLY easy to do well. Use the program, think "How can I make this easier to use?" and then get other people to use the program, give them different versions of the interface to try, then update it, and repeat until it works best for most people. Simple.
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    Default Re: Can I say how much I hate.. ?

    DukeofThomas everyone is free to express their opinion of the tools within Xara Xtreme.

    Is there anything about Xara Xtreme or any of their products that you do like?
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    Oh yea?
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    Default Re: Can I say how much I hate.. ?

    Quote Originally Posted by DukeofThomas View Post
    User interface is REALLY easy to do well.
    hehehhehehe...... whew , that's a good one.



    oh wait, you were serious....
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    "Intbel" ... "Can't" is not an option.

    Compliance is futile. Resistance is futile. Just do your own thing an' ignore 'em.
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    Default Re: Can I say how much I hate.. ?

    Duke of Thomas, are you able to explain me the following: If you have no programming experience, how could it be, that you know, that programming a user interface is REALLY easy to do?

    I know, what you're talking about by people who aren't easy to convinced. But I wouldn't call your manager a "idiot", like you do. You has to convince your manager and if you're not successful, you has to work on your argumentation (style). It's important for you, to learn something about this. Don't you think so?
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