Ten times better!!!!

Klaus, good butt kinking ... ever play football : )

Don't know if you guys ever saw the series on TV called "The Paper Chase" where the crusty old law professor would verbally beat the hell of his pupils to get them into shape.

This was a very productive posting

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Perhaps there should be a new FORUM in TalkGraphic. Call it WANT A BUTTKICKING AND HUMILIATION AND LEARN AT THE SAME TIME.