Bill, several ways of resolving this and one of them is explained here: https://initiostar.co.uk/demo/satmenu
Another commonly used (historically at least) method is to group the text with a shape (99% transparent) to create padding between the top of the page and the button text. Of course, the standard Navbar approach of soft-grouping two groups (MouseOff and MouseOver layers) does not have the problem.
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