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    Default Two churches two designs

    Similar designs. Photos all taken by myself. Simple and I think clean designs.

    Www.stmatthewstisdale.ca

    Www.allsaintsmelfort.ca

    Nothing spectacular but were adding things. Certainly a more interesting gallery layout is needed.

    -Bill
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    Default Re: Two churches two designs

    Nice work Bill.

    That said, you need to add some meta data so the browser tab doesn't just say index.

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    Default Re: Two churches two designs

    Yes but 16 seconds to download on a mobile is a loooong time Bill as is the weight of the visitors data usage. A 3,000 kB and a 2,500 kB is far to big an image source to be using as your hero images.
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    Default Re: Two churches two designs

    Bill, use WebP images.
    Set the menubar to Sticky.
    Image Filename all big pictures.

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    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
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    Default Re: Two churches two designs

    It does beg the question, why are the ready made nav bars so inefficient? Many new users would use them exclusively.
    Or can one use a ready made bar, take it apart, and adjust or eliminate some of the button states.

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    Default Re: Two churches two designs

    Quote Originally Posted by bwood View Post
    It does beg the question, why are the ready made nav bars so inefficient? Many new users would use them exclusively.
    Or can one use a ready made bar, take it apart, and adjust or eliminate some of the button states.
    Bill
    Bill, it is all around a historic choice Xara made regarding button creation where stretch buttons are used to construct menu bars. This requires a Text Line grouped to a blob so when the text grows the blob stretches.
    All one with code as well before more powerful CSS. Even the newer buttons still expect blobs and invariably end up as bitmaps.

    If you open up a NavBar for editing, you can add image filenames for each blob and state and reassemble. When you then Repeat across pages, you are referencing named blobs and not hosts of numbered blobs.
    Extremely messy, which drove me to CSS NavBars - no images.

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    Default Re: Two churches two designs

    Quote Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill View Post
    Yes but 16 seconds to download on a mobile is a loooong time Bill as is the weight of the visitors data usage. A 3,000 kB and a 2,500 kB is far to big an image source to be using as your hero images.
    @egg. Try the speed on this on desktop. Www.melfortmuseum.org. Much faster after nav bar change, lazy loading on placeholders, reduced hero images. I still have to work on the mobile set up. Ive trashed 3 pages and made one, the about page. I have a lot of pop up photos. Im either going to reduce the amount of photos, or reduce pop ups. Im finding that pop ups on mobile is a waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwood View Post
    I’m finding that pop ups on mobile is a waste of time.
    My work is done.

    Think of mobile as a long thin open musical accordion. In Main, it needs to be squeezed as scrolling is a pain. Closed means rollovers & pop-ups, as in Xara you cannot have different transitional website designs in Main and Variants or different numbers of pages.

    Acorn
    Last edited by Acorn; 13 February 2024 at 08:27 PM.
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    Default Re: Two churches two designs

    Buttons look much better but the drop-downs close before you can click them unless you move the mouse very quickly across the screen. Try placing a no fill / no stroke rectangle behind the dropdown menus, this should keep them open.
    Last edited by Egg Bramhill; 14 February 2024 at 12:01 AM.
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    Default Re: Two churches two designs

    Quote Originally Posted by gwpriester View Post
    Nice work Bill.

    That said, you need to add some meta data so the browser tab doesn't just say index.
    Certainly trying to do that Gary, but I don’t know how. I could use a home.htm. I’ve read the meta data quite thoroughly.
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