How to create a seamless pattern from a seamless tile?

[handrawn]

certainly should work

I have an adversion to resizing fills unless there is no other [practical] choice, just me I guess; probably the animator in me baulks at resizing something 'on the hoof' - if it could be done by entering in absolute values numerically that might be different...

[Acorn]

Ric, to create a seamless tile-fill, assuming the tile is correct, make a 10"x10" box.
With that selected, in the Bitmap Gallery, right-click on the tile and pick Apply as fill.
This make a single tile fill all the box.

Switch to the Fill tool and change to Repeating tile and then set the Bitmap resolution back to 96dpi (or whatever the original image's dpi is).

if it could be done by entering in absolute values numerically that might be different...

You will now have 5x5 tiling in your box.

If you use @handrawn's method, select all the tiles, group them and make sure you have this set to render as a single image using Group web export.

Acorn

[Ric_NYC]

I took the 2" x 2" tile and snapped copies to it originally.

However, just adding the 2" x 2" tile to the drawing anywhere: Draw 8" x 8" square: Add fill: Change fill to the picture bitmap: Change to repeating: Adjust fill handles: I cannot make the fill not seamless whatever I do. Using Shift I can distort it. but it's still seamless.

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You have to hold the CTRL while you move the handles to keep the ratio.

[Ric_NYC]

Let me just say this: I know how to create a base tile without outlines and use it in a large square to create a pattern in Xara (bitmap fill + repeating pattern, resize the pattern inside the square if needed, etc.).

My question is about how to make the final square that's seamless too.

This image explains what I'm saying:
https://ibb.co/fxyM1GM

I tried to multiply the base title of 4"x4" by 5. So I thought that a 20"x20" square would be an exact size to create a large square keeping the seamless aspect of the original tile.
That didn't work.

[handrawn]

out of interest - is the one in the xara file I posted up seamless... I think it is... [post #9]

[Acorn]

Let me just say this: I know how to create a base tile without outlines and use it in a large square to create a pattern in Xara (bitmap fill + repeating pattern, resize the pattern inside the square if needed, etc.).
My question is about how to make the final square seamless too.

If you are dragging the fill with Ctrl+Drag, you are relying on your eye and judgement when to stop.
You will rarely get the 20"x20" tile seamless like that.

I chose 10"x10" on purpose as I then put four together seamlessly with Snap to Objects.

Acorn

[Acorn]

out of interest - is the one in the xara file I posted up seamless... I think it is... [post #9]

I just did the same with yours and it is seamless 40"x40".

Acorn

[handrawn]

Ric, to create a seamless tile-fill, assuming the tile is correct, make a 10"x10" box.
With that selected, in the Bitmap Gallery, right-click on the tile and pick Apply as fill.
This make a single tile fill all the box.

Switch to the Fill tool and change to Repeating tile and then set the Bitmap resolution back to 96dpi (or whatever the original image's dpi is).

You will now have 5x5 tiling in your box.

If you use @handrawn's method, select all the tiles, group them and make sure you have this set to render as a single image using Group web export.

Acorn

yes you can also do it that way, but I am a simple soul, I might even want to break it apart again

and forgive me once again for not thinking like a website builder; good point about the group web export should that be the requirement...

[handrawn]

I just did the same with yours and it is seamless 40"x40".

Acorn

yes indeed, it was rhetorical question...

there is the flaw in the base tile supplied of course, but it is seamless, I have made my fair share of seamless tiles these past few years...

[Ric_NYC]

The base tile that you used must have been changed by the website I used to share the image. If you take a look at the last picture that I posted you can see that inside the large square, there are no lines.

https://ibb.co/mB0byVM


Thank you, guys!

I'll read all the posts again and try to figure out what I should do!

I knew that snapping the base tiles could work but I was trying to use a feature that's built-in (the repeating pattern option).