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    Lightbulb Name Gallery should include No Fill as a Used Colour

    Dear Xara...

    There are a number of issues around Xara functionality with shapes that have No Fill Colour:
    1. Currently, Named Colours cannot have a No Fill applied.
    2. A No Fill node applied to a Fill Tool handle shows White in the design page so it is not WYSIWYG.
    3. For Xara Pro+ & XDPX, any Shape with No Fill applied can never be found as a Used colour.

    #1 could impact #3.

    Bug#004: #2 is a UI fail. #1/3 are Feature Requests.

    Acorn
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    Default Re: Name Gallery should include No Fill as a Used Colour

    point 3

    you know, I don't look at it that way - when you remove the colour from the object then it changes state; what it's colour was before it was removed is not an attribute that is taken forward, it is lost

    that seems logical to me.. I mean this happens with non named colours as well... and if you want xara to keep a log of the attribute history of each object where do you stop... that could be problematical

    point 1

    well they can, but then they cease to be a named colour object - see above

    point 2

    ok see that... but not sure it would be a priority for me
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    Default Re: Name Gallery should include No Fill as a Used Colour

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    point 3
    you know, I don't look at it that way - when you remove the colour from the object then it changes state; what it's colour was before it was removed is not an attribute that is taken forward, it is lost
    that seems logical to me.. I mean this happens with non named colours as well... and if you want xara to keep a log of the attribute history of each object where do you stop... that could be problematical
    handrawn, I am not asking for a history just the mechanism to apply No Fill to a shape and to be able to find that shape through the Name gallery.
    No Fill should be considered a colour of Transparency in the same way a Transparency of 100% is applied.

    The attributes of a shape should not be spread all over the application in differing styles and formats so one is left guessing.

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    Default Re: Name Gallery should include No Fill as a Used Colour

    thanks for the clarification

    no colour should indeed be an attribute in tha same way as transparency is; in fact to most of us at least there is no difference between '100% transparency' and 'no colour'... agreed

    zero is a mathematical quantity and all that....
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    Default Re: Name Gallery should include No Fill as a Used Colour

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    no colour should indeed be an attribute in tha same way as transparency is; in fact to most of us at least there is no difference between '100% transparency' and 'no colour'... agreed
    Almost handrawn, 100% Transparency, sadly, impacts the Line opacity at the same time.

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    Default Re: Name Gallery should include No Fill as a Used Colour

    it does ?
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    Default Re: Name Gallery should include No Fill as a Used Colour

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    it does ?
    Yes

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    You cannot make the bottom set without a cheat.

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    Default Re: Name Gallery should include No Fill as a Used Colour

    xar file ?
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    Default Re: Name Gallery should include No Fill as a Used Colour

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    xar file ?
    I was holding it back to allow people time to work out what I did.

    As ever, I hit another Xara Bug in the process.

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    Default Re: Name Gallery should include No Fill as a Used Colour

    ok but it did not answer my question - if I apply transparency it does not affect the outline -is that not what you meant? not possible to tell from a screen shot
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