Xara Designer Pro+ Update 21.2.0.62177

[Egg Bramhill]

Good, but somewhat confused. I experimented importing various webp files. some import fine but others raise a box stating this image would be better converted to jpg.... Why?

[Egg Bramhill]

I attach a link to an image I downloaded from Unsplash.

If I import it to XaraPro+ then save it as first an 80% jpg (jpg.jpg) it reports a size of 144Kb
If I export it as a webp @ 80% (webp.webp) it reports a size of 41Kb

However if I open a new page and import jpg.jpg it reports a file size of 143Kb which I'd expect.
But when I import webp.webp I'm informed it would be better imported as a jpg, which I ignore. The Bitmap gallery reports it as 7Mb !!!

I attach a link to the original Unsplash image I downloaded as a jpg (1920 x 1282px) LINK

[handrawn]

However if I open a new page and import jpg.jpg it reports a file size of 143Kb which I'd expect.

not seeing this egg - maybe I am misunderstanding, but just tried this and the bitmap gallery shows the uncompressed size, as it does with the webp; and like I said in previous post its as it should be, I would not want edits to be made on the compressed version

as far as better converted to jpg; maybe xara is not yet convinced webp has replaced them...? I have it switched out anyway

[Egg Bramhill]

... it has always uncompressed images; it does that for png and jpeg;

Not on my machine. If I import a jpg the Bitmap Gallery reports it as such.
It doesn't do this for .png's which it reports as a Standard Bitmap.
The same is true for imported webp images. Standard Bitmap.

So I have two questions
1: Why are .png & .webp images not imported as such? .jpg's are.
2: Why is Xara recommending converting smaller .webp images to .jpg?

[Egg Bramhill]

From the help menu:

Automatic conversion to JPEG
The JPEG image format is usually the best choice for photo images, because it maintains high quality with smaller file sizes. So when you import non-JPEG photo files, Xara Designer Pro+ will examine the image to see if it would be more appropriate as a JPEG. If so, a prompt is shown giving you the option to convert it to JPEG on import. This reduces the size of your document files and reduces memory usage when editing.

Which with the inclusion of webp is no longer normally valid?

[handrawn]

I didn't say anything about it's label [name] in the bitmap gallery egg - i was taliking about it's size, and the jpeg size is uncompresed, just like png and webp, that was my point in answer to:

However if I open a new page and import jpg.jpg it reports a file size of 143Kb which I'd expect.
But when I import webp.webp I'm informed it would be better imported as a jpg, which I ignore. The Bitmap gallery reports it as 7Mb !!!

when I re-import a jpeg [that I saved compressed] it gets imported uncompressed; they all do

I see no sense in converting jpeg to webp as I've said; xara may not have got round to looking at this aspect, or they may just think most of their clients will still prefer to work in jpeg format

[handrawn]

good question with a webp - often happens with a png which you can switch out in the registry with optimisejpegfrompng set to 0 should you be intelligent enough to make a descision for yourself - be interesting to see if that works with webp

there is a case for converting some png, but not webp?

[Egg Bramhill]

Agreed And why is the webp image being reported at such a big file size?

[gwpriester]

There is also a setting in XaReg not to show the notice about JPEG

[Acorn]

@Egg, it's never about size, it's what you do with it.

Yes, I got a similar internal size but Xara converts all into full 24-bit BMP images as it always has done.
If you re-export or Preview/Publish, the WebP is dramatically smaller again.

Acorn