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    Default Re: How's your disk usage?

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    interesting app thanks, I'll give it a go

    RE Xara: I also save incrementally [rename at milestones] and this is one of the main reasons I do not use xara backup; the other being that the whole system is being backed up by acronis on a continual basis

    backups should be efficient, and there is no point in duplicating for the sake of it; I like all my project work in a project folder, and my backup gererations in a heirarchical, physically seperate, structure
    I deactivated auto-backups a couple of months ago, too. At the time, I wasn't aware of how much space it was taking. I turned it off because it always interrupted me at the most inopportune times and would completely cut my train of thought, waiting for up to three minutes for it to finish. Though I don't use a whole system backup, I try to remain vigilant of the amount of work I do between saves, so as not to lose anything important.

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    Default Re: How's your disk usage?

    Quote Originally Posted by gcellison View Post
    I turned it off because it always interrupted me at the most inopportune times and would completely cut my train of thought, waiting for up to three minutes for it to finish.
    Your files must be far bigger than available memory..
    Also, if you switch the Backup path to another disk (not always possible), you avoid MS Windows performing lots of disk swaps.

    My backup pause if around 5 seconds.

    I also backup into the Cloud, all at the same time.

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat

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    Default Re: How's your disk usage?

    three minuites is a long time

    that said 5 secs is a long time if it it is not necessary when a third party does it from ghost without any interuptions at all
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    Default Re: How's your disk usage?

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    three minuites is a long time

    that said 5 secs is a long time if it it is not necessary when a third party does it from ghost without any interuptions at all
    But a ghost takes a finite time to collate and more to save. Before and during your file changes are vulnerable. 5s would also be the save time.

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat

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    Default Re: How's your disk usage?

    tell me - hoe often does xara do a back up ? you can set your interval I know

    I set my acronis intervals too - but it monitors the system all the time, and yes that has a performance overhead and is one of the reasons I have a high spec desktop

    the whole system is then backed up in one place [and then backed out on the network]

    to use xara back up would be a duplication of effort and a duplication of file instances, which i do not want

    as acronis works in the background no program gets interupted, not even for 5 secs
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    Default Re: How's your disk usage?

    Quote Originally Posted by handrawn View Post
    tell me - hoe often does xara do a back up ? you can set your interval I know
    I set my acronis intervals too - but it monitors the system all the time, and yes that has a performance overhead and is one of the reasons I have a high spec desktop
    the whole system is then backed up in one place [and then backed out on the network]
    to use xara back up would be a duplication of effort and a duplication of file instances, which i do not want
    as acronis works in the background no program gets interupted, not even for 5 secs
    Not arguing any of that.
    I was thinking of the occasions when Xara crashes.
    I have a backup of 10 minutes prior, you have nothing.

    As I have my design files in Dropbox, any manual save is copied straight away "without interruptions" as well.
    My key files are on two separate drives, a fall-back drive, the Cloud, and a fall-back machine.
    I prefer my ghosts to be for my system files rather than data; data is the more mobile.

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat

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    Default Re: How's your disk usage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acorn View Post
    I was thinking of the occasions when Xara crashes.
    I have a backup of 10 minutes prior, you have nothing.
    re 'nothing' not so because:

    but it [acronis] monitors the system all the time
    ok it take longer to ghost the system, but acronis is fast, especially if not much else has changed, and you can argue that if a system backup taskes n minuites and you set to backup every 10 mins, then essentialy you are getting backups every ten minutes, but with an initial historical offset of n - ok it is not quite that simple, but it is the way I prefer it; and whilst the system backs up in three seperate locations [of course] I only keep the current and last but one iterations

    if it is that important I could setup another backup routine to specifically bak the project file folder[s], but usually I save and therefore bak the program file iterations offline directly which keeps me happy... too much automation makes me twitchy

    and you know, xara very rarely crashes for me these days, have not had one worth mentioning for ages [testing out new features does not count, you expect the possibility] - but then I use almost exclusively the features that have been there for a long time and who's glitches are 'established'

    I am actually more concerned about losing the whole system in a power failure for example, and of course these days, xara is mostly ancillary to my workflow anyway....
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    Default Re: How's your disk usage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acorn View Post
    Your files must be far bigger than available memory..
    Also, if you switch the Backup path to another disk (not always possible), you avoid MS Windows performing lots of disk swaps.

    My backup pause if around 5 seconds.

    I also backup into the Cloud, all at the same time.

    Acorn
    It's true that while I was developing the templates for the website, the auto-backup only took a few seconds. Once I started adding in the images, particularly a fairly large gallery page, the size exploded. The largest the project file got was 613MB, at which point I optimized all images to 192dpi, bringing it down to 326MB. In the past couple of weeks, I revamped completely, converting all jpg images into 50dpi placeholders with html code to access webp/jpg images from an external directory. The current project size is 29MB. And indeed, saving is swift. Learning as I go...

 

 

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