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  1. #1
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    Default changing hosts and ssl

    I have built an extensive website over the years using xara web designer
    My host provider is Plusnet.
    My site is losing views since Google added a grey triangle to its url.
    I apparently need a SSL certificate to make my site safe.
    Plusnet do not do SSL certificates and also Magix donít either I think.
    I am stuck!
    Have I to change providers I wonder? Doing a bit of research it seems host providers would want me to plug into their own template based system if I want a ssl certificate off them?
    I am not sure if I would still be able to develop my website with xara if I changed hosts, and many also seem to have lots of sliding scales for extra payments?
    So ideally I want to find a host for my domain who would allow me to carry on with Xara building a website and providing a ssl certificate and help installing it?
    Non-technical advice would be very welcome.

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    Default Re: changing hosts and ssl

    Most hosting companies offer a free SSL through LetsEncrypt, even if they don't offer it automatically you can check out this article https://letsencrypt.org/getting-started/ . Isn't plusnet a broadband provider? I would look for a better hosting company (siteground is very good, free SSL as well). I can't think of any hosting provider who would want you to use their site creator in order to use an SSL, if they do then stay far away.
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    Default Re: changing hosts and ssl

    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud View Post
    Most hosting companies offer a free SSL through LetsEncrypt, even if they don't offer it automatically you can check out this article https://letsencrypt.org/getting-started/ . Isn't plusnet a broadband provider? I would look for a better hosting company (siteground is very good, free SSL as well). I can't think of any hosting provider who would want you to use their site creator in order to use an SSL, if they do then stay far away.
    I will investigate and come back.
    If possible do you know of a business that uses xara web designer and have changed providers so as to fix the ssl problem?

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    Default Re: changing hosts and ssl

    I have used 1&1, now IONOS, for 10+ years for all the Xara websites that I manage: https://www.ionos.co.uk/hosting/web-hosting#packages. I have transferred-in several domains without any problem.

    There of course many web-hosting companies - bluehost gets some great reviews: https://www.bluehost.com/hosting/shared and is probably a better overall package right now.

    Should be relatively easy to transfer your domain and most web-hosting companies will help - both these companies include an SSL cert. Maybe call a couple and make your judgement, and just Google 'web hosting'

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    Default Re: changing hosts and ssl

    There's this on plusnets website.
    LINK
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    Default Re: changing hosts and ssl

    If I change my domain to Bluehost, or IONOS say, what sort of annual costs mount up over one year of a simplest basic hosting. I know I should ring them, but wanted to get your take on this. Also, I will contact tech support again in Plusnet. They said they did not do ssl cert last time, but this article sort of contradicts that.
    So, I have created my website using xara over 10 years, originally with Freenetname domain. This was taken over by Madasafish, then finally Plusnet. Could this be a problem I wonder for transferring data? I am paying nothing at all for my site on the net but now with a grey triangle.

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    Default Re: changing hosts and ssl

    The links in post#4 outline the costs and indicate GBP4-5 per month for a basic service. If you hunt around you will find a hosting company that is less.

    To be clear these are hosting companies; they will not own your domain name. You should be able to transfer your domain name to any hosting company.

    I followed Egg's link:

    If you've got business broadband, or an older home broadband account that offers webspace, then read on. Your webspace uses the server ftp.plus.net, which supports SSL. That means it's possible to allow people visiting certain pages of your website to use a secure, encrypted SSL connection.

    To do that, use the address https://homepages.plus.net/username.

    If you want to access a specific file on your webspace using SSL, use https://homepages.plus.net/username/myfile.html for example. Remember to add https in any hyperlinks you use.

    This won't work with:


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    Default Re: changing hosts and ssl

    I will look at all this info again and do more research on the above links to understand things more. Looks like lots of good advice. I do not want to make a mess of things after building my website for so long.

 

 

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