Is it just me?

[diniel]

As John and Richard say, many other forums will let ANYONE view them, but will only allow REGISTERED users to post... and to become registered, you must choose a username and password.

An activation code is then emailed to the address you supply, and unless you enter that code into the forum on your first visit, even with a username and password, you can't post.

Infopop seems to be pretty fully featured in all other respects, so I'm sure that this is a configuration option which has either been turned off, or is ready and waiting to be enabled. Make a global change of password for all users, and force people to click "I forgot my password, send it to me in an email" - that'll guarantee valid email addreses are held.

I don't think that they should be shown on the Profile page though, spiders are too eager to pick them up and spam away

[Albacore]

Like most people I like a good debate and I like to see it in this forum. This is the correct place for discussion to take place. I enjoyed watching Lone Wolf's thread moving along but then people started to take it personally and the discussion moved too far and did not stick to the question.
John's idea is a great one which would allow moderators to see the E-mail address but we in the forum would still be anonymous and not get any spam.

I really like this forum for its help, I always get answers to problems that I have and I really thank people for that. But I also like the stirrers who waken up every one. Look at the number of views Lone Wolf comments have stirred up which means people have wanted to comment on the thread or look, like me, to see which way the arguments or discussions were going.

Yes Gary like you I think Lone Wolf was just doing it to stir but it was entertaining to see the replies but it went too far. Sit back like me more when this type of comment comes in and watch and see where it goes. Do not take it so personal and if you can sit back and relax. This type of question is so predictaable that you can see it is a wind-up just because the other forums in "talkgraphics" are so poor in comparison with both Xara's forums. I like you have up-graded to CorelDraw11 and where are the forums and galleries where we can get the same help and constructive crit like we get here.

My final comment is I do not mind the stirrers, I watch, I laugh, I ignore, I enjoy, I do not care for we still have the easiest vector package to use that gives the best results and still the three most helpful forums if you include xaraxone to use and enjoy.

pkmcwhinnie1@whsmithnet.co.uk
should I have inserted no spam there?

[jens g.r. benthien]

request a valid e-mail address, like ebay, that means a throw-away like blahbla@lycos.com. aol, msn etc are not allowed. In addition members can submit a second one - which can be a throw-away address which will be published. The 'real' one is only for the moderators.

Makes sense? I think so.

jens

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[TimS]

In my opinion, you're 100% right. It's been such a downer lately. I long for the good ol' days.
tim

[gidgit]

It is often hard to dismiss these types of activities ( spamming ), but... thing is, already there has been too much energy expent towards these causes, and hey... this takes away from more productive activities... http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/wink.gif http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

These things are bound to surface from time to time, we shall deal and move on... this is how we take back the boards... http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif ( the mods will sweep up the mess when identified as such... http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif , and if we are late ariving then simply ignore the spam and/or the like if it surfaces, move around it and click into some good, fun, and interesting threads, and theres a ton of em...

as for app bashing, another ill advised topic which surfaces from time to time... remember you hold the choice to/or not to participate in any given thread... http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif [holds hands out and up in a what ya gonna do jesture]

pretty hard call at times, because the sediments cast by the individual may not be those of the majority however the rights and freedoms of the individual should/must be respected...

This is where the energy thing comes in...

on one hand you can feed the cause(s) by further participation... in which case please don't whine about it, but rather keep it clean, and work on solutions while particpating... http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif sounds like a heap of a lot of work to me... http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

or... The Best Solution as already stated...

simply move on to the next cool thread in the forum of your flavour... sounds like a no brainer to me ... http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif quick, easy, and cool fun stuff on screen...

Have a good one all, and happy creat'n eh... http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[This message was edited by gidgit on January 29, 2003 at 15:10.]

[pduggan]

I don't spend anything like the time I used to here because it just doesn't attract me like it used to.

Why? Well, it's hard to explain without the risk of ruffling a few feathers, but here goes:

As usual, I agree with much of what Roman has said above, but have comments of my own to add. On a number of occasions I've offered help to people and either not been thanked or seen helpful, factually correct answers dismissed or flung back in my face by folk who don't know better. I don't like the repeated topics exhorting us to click through votes for the XaraXone (sorry, Gary!). I'm fed up of folk posting excessively large images when large parts of the world are stuck in a dial-up timewarp, OpenTopic doesn't allow the attached images to be cached by our browsers and I'd like to see the moderators take a more proactive role in dealing with this. I see too much back-slapping (!) as well as negativity sometimes, with folk too often being 'blown away' by work of average quality (but, no, I'm not suggesting we should set out to be harsh either... just objective). Last but not least, if I find myself reading yet another boring 'Xara dead or alive?' topic within the next trillion years, it'll probably be the last topic I stop to read here for the next trillion years! http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Blunt? Perhaps (I'd prefer to think of myself as honest)... Anonymous? Never (my name and email address are hardly secret)! So some folk will agree and some will disagree with what I've said in whole or in part, but surely we all believe in freedom of speech and my comments are simply my take on how things stand for me.

Peter

Peat Stack or Pete's Tack?

[RTK]

... Troll for a couple of days... not realizing that the point, and success of these forums is the helpful and supportive atmosphere. They are too stupid to realize that they will not accomplish *anything*... AND that many, and much bigger and clever trolls have been here before them, and they also didn’t accomplish *anything*...

Is it a coincidence that the loudest trolls are the anonymous ones? I don’t think so! It is very easy being a loud mouth when you hide behind a shield of anonymity. If it were up to me I would demand a full name, address and a urine sample... http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Lone Wolf – LOL – You give yourself too much credit! http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif These forums have been around for a long time... In my book you are not even close to being "slightly annoying" you are still on the "pathetic" level. http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif The sad part is that you are too stupid to realize that people are laughing AT you – not WITH you... http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Risto

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[Karim]

(May attract a few yawn's or flames, but I'll http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif and bear it)

You've covered non-accountability. How about fear? Say you were a recent ex-employee of a forum owner and you have a 'bad' claim to make.
This may breach the confidentiality of your employment contract, or it could lay you open to legal proceedings for defamation or libel. It doesn't even matter if the fear is unfounded - it is the *fear* of those results that counts. Anonymity means you can say what you want... just that no one will believe you http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

So how about requiring a valid email address, but the forum maintaining a *very* strict privacy policy, so that there is no way a forum owner could find out the identity of a poster whose views they don't want shared. I don't think this is possible, and it is kind of similar to anonymous posting anyway http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

So how to allow freedom of speech without fear, but also without anonymous stirrers? Ideas on a postcard...

ps This is a *great* forum for discussing how to push X to the limit - using tools in ways their designers hadn't dreamt of. Don't ask for new features, instead concentrate on what you can do - the art, the neat tricks and challenges, the help for newbies - that's why this forum is good!

[diniel]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Peter Duggan:
So some folk will agree and some will disagree with what I've said in whole or in part, but surely we all believe in freedom of speech and my comments are simply my take on how things stand for me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'd go along with most of that, esp the back-slapping and vote rigging http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[RTK]

... I missed Peter's post...

I agree with pretty much all of it! I'm probably guilty of one or two things myself http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

In any case, it could all make for an interesting debate.

Risto

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