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    Default Re: version 18 is too slow compared to version 17, not usable for me

    Quote Originally Posted by PhilM View Post
    Hi,
    We have accidentally introduced a unwanted "order of complexity issue" with large groups in the Selector tool.
    This will be fixed in a patch soon.
    Thank you for letting us all know.

    Does this also address the other mentions of large numbers pages and repeating objects?

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat

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    Default Re: version 18 is too slow compared to version 17, not usable for me

    Quote Originally Posted by Acorn View Post
    Thank you for letting us all know.

    Does this also address the other mentions of large numbers pages and repeating objects?

    Acorn
    No, this is a specific problem in the Selector tool.

    Have the issues with large documents and repeating objects been reported elsewhere? What is the scenario?

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    Bug Re: version 18 is too slow compared to version 17, not usable for me

    Quote Originally Posted by PhilM View Post
    No, this is a specific problem in the Selector tool.
    Have the issues with large documents and repeating objects been reported elsewhere? What is the scenario?
    I swear I bashed my gums over this with Xara (& Cloud) back in July last year.
    I was no willing to upload a 56MB files during the middle of a frustrating development period.

    My workaround was to delete all Repeating Group while working on the design and re-apply prior to a re-issue.
    My second workaround was to fall back to XWDPv15.0 as my client had that and reported fewer timing problems.

    Basically, the selection of any shape would freeze the application for 15+ seconds.
    The MS Windows Ring of Ouroboros would spin for 15+ seconds; the Web Properties > Link > Link to box would vanish; the monitor screen would go black; the application would jump behind other open windows.
    Each and every click.

    I have cut out all the large images and the file size is now 3MB. The document has 107 web pages and one Variant.
    In Xara Pro+ (Xara Designer Pro+ 21.0.0.61527 SL x64 Mar 9 2021), the same is still occurring. [Pro+ is referred to as Xara Designer Pro+ 18 18.0.0.61527 in File > Document History > History tab]

    UPDATE: I tried a PM with Attachment but lost it - I will email your directly.

    UPDATED UPDATE: I have just created a test file that all can play with: Repeating Groups FAIL.xar
    The delay in this simply Conventional Website is around 3 seconds a click, a move, a jump. same applied - 3 seconds - for a single letter change in the text!
    Open the Web Properties dialog and watch the Link Tab and the Link to Box.

    Consider the frustration when this telescopes out to 15+ seconds.

    Acorn
    Last edited by Acorn; 27 March 2021 at 12:29 PM.
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat

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    Default Re: version 18 is too slow compared to version 17, not usable for me

    Quote Originally Posted by Acorn View Post
    I swear I bashed my gums over this with Xara (& Cloud) back in July last year.
    I was no willing to upload a 56MB files during the middle of a frustrating development period.

    My workaround was to delete all Repeating Group while working on the design and re-apply prior to a re-issue.
    My second workaround was to fall back to XWDPv15.0 as my client had that and reported fewer timing problems.

    Basically, the selection of any shape would freeze the application for 15+ seconds.
    The MS Windows Ring of Ouroboros would spin for 15+ seconds; the Web Properties > Link > Link to box would vanish; the monitor screen would go black; the application would jump behind other open windows.
    Each and every click.

    I have cut out all the large images and the file size is now 3MB. The document has 107 web pages and one Variant.
    In Xara Pro+ (Xara Designer Pro+ 21.0.0.61527 SL x64 Mar 9 2021), the same is still occurring. [Pro+ is referred to as Xara Designer Pro+ 18 18.0.0.61527 in File > Document History > History tab]

    UPDATE: I tried a PM with Attachment but lost it - I will email your directly.

    UPDATED UPDATE: I have just created a test file that all can play with: Repeating Groups FAIL.xar
    The delay in this simply Conventional Website is around 3 seconds a click, a move, a jump. same applied - 3 seconds - for a single letter change in the text!
    Open the Web Properties dialog and watch the Link Tab and the Link to Box.

    Consider the frustration when this telescopes out to 15+ seconds.

    Acorn

    Hello, I just upgraded to the latest Xara Designer Pro X and I am having the same problem. The selection of any shape freezes the application for 15+ seconds. The application is SO SLUGGISH that I am unable to effectively get my work done. What happened? It is currently late September 2021... is there any fix or update for this???

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    Default Re: version 18 is too slow compared to version 17, not usable for me

    see here: https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...548#post641548

    rsrsrs/acorn's test files are ok for me in version 18.5
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    Default Re: version 18 is too slow compared to version 17, not usable for me

    Quote Originally Posted by msheesha View Post
    Hello, I just upgraded to the latest Xara Designer Pro X and I am having the same problem. The selection of any shape freezes the application for 15+ seconds. The application is SO SLUGGISH that I am unable to effectively get my work done. What happened? It is currently late September 2021... is there any fix or update for this???
    msheesha, I am not having any problems with Xara Pro+v20.5. XDPXv18.5 is at an almost identical build.

    I suggest you try my test file above and next Run as administrator the once and then check against my test file.
    That might clear things up for you.

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat

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    Default Re: version 18 is too slow compared to version 17, not usable for me

    Hello Acorn,

    Thank you for responding to my post. I tried your test file and it was not sluggish. I am wondering why I am encountering such extreme sluggishness. Since upgrading to 18.5, I started working on only one new website project. The template I am working with I downloaded directly from the XARA Content Catalog. It is the one-page website template called "Porfolio". Could that be the reason for such slowness? Does anyone else have this experience with that template or any other XARA website templates in general? Just trying to solve this problem

    Thank you!

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    Default Re: version 18 is too slow compared to version 17, not usable for me

    Quote Originally Posted by msheesha View Post
    Hello Acorn,
    Thank you for responding to my post. I tried your test file and it was not sluggish. I am wondering why I am encountering such extreme sluggishness. Since upgrading to 18.5, I started working on only one new website project. The template I am working with I downloaded directly from the XARA Content Catalog. It is the one-page website template called "Porfolio". Could that be the reason for such slowness? Does anyone else have this experience with that template or any other XARA website templates in general? Just trying to solve this problem Thank you!
    msheesha, I have download and edited Portfolio in XPro+v21.5 with no delays or issues.

    Sorry, it is a negative.

    Acorn
    Acorn - installed Xara software: Cloud+/Pro+ and most others back through time (to CC's Artworks). Contact for technical remediation/consultancy for your web designs.
    When we provide assistance, your responses are valuable as they benefit the community. TG Nuggets you might like. Report faults: Xara Cloud+/Pro+/Magix Legacy; Xara KB & Chat

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    Default Re: version 18 is too slow compared to version 17, not usable for me

    No, this is a specific problem in the Selector tool.

    Have the issues with large documents and repeating objects been reported elsewhere? What is the scenario?
    I have been making some changes to our stereograms website. The process when saving or publishing was pretty quick, especially if I was making a small change. Now I may as well go out for coffee while it grinds through the process. This is significantly slower than previous.

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    Default Re: version 18 is too slow compared to version 17, not usable for me

    I didn't realize that GP but then I have not done anything that requires the processing power that you need.

 

 

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